[maemo-community] Maemo Site

[From: Tim]

Thanks, Jose... These are good critiques (I hadn't yet had time to go
through everything, so I appreciate it!).

In addendum, we'll need "rollover" states for all links and
buttons... This is just something I didn't want to forget adding to
the discussion. :)

Tim
--- Original message follows ---
SUBJECT: Re: Maemo Site
FROM:  Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente 
TO: "List for community development" 
DATE: 12/18/2008 8:44 am
Hello,

Just as "W3C evangelist", I think that the markup should validate
with
W3C validators[1]:
"Errors found while checking this document as HTML 4.01
Transitional!"

The main error now seems to be the div#menu, but using "structural
markup" it should/could be:

...
...
And thinking about accessibility[2] of the webpage:
- There should be meaningful "text" alternatives for the images (for
example "Logo" doesn't say nothing for Maemo.org logo), and
decorative
images should have an empty "alt" attribute. And the "bright" star is
not the same than the "dark" star, so, they shouldn't have the same
"alt" attribute
- The document structure should be revised. There shouldn't be an h5
after an h3 without existing an h4 before if they are in the same
block.
- Why aren't the input fields inside a "form" element? The "input"
elements should have associated "label" elements

And, a last thought, being a "W3C Mobile Web Initiative" member, have
you consider about the webpage being a "mobileOK" page:
http://validator.w3.org/mobile/?docAddr=http%3A%2F%2Fopenbossa.andrecunha.com%2Fmaemo%2F&view=cat

Just sharing some thoughts. Thanks and best regards,

[1]
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fopenbossa.andrecunha.com%2Fmaemo%2F
[2] http://www.w3.org/WAI/guid-tech.html

2008/12/18 Andre Cunha :
> Hi valerio,
> here is tha updated link: http://openbossa.andrecunha.com/maemo/
> can you test again?
>

> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Valerio Valerio  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Andre Cunha 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Link updated: http://openbossa.andrecunha.com/maemo/#
>>> there is still a bug on the menu when opening with IE.
>>> we are working on it
>>
>> In FF3 (ubuntu) and Opera 9.27(ubuntu), the 'Go' Button is also
>> misaligned, I provide screenshots in the links below, the rest of
the design
>> is pretty shiny :).
>>
>> FF3: http://www.valeriovalerio.org/images/new_maemo_FF3.png
>> Opera:
http://www.valeriovalerio.org/images/maemo_new_Opera_9_27.png
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> --
>> Valério Valério
>>
>> http://www.valeriovalerio.org
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Tim  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Andre,
>>>>
>>>> Also, please make SURE that you test your work in MicroB on a
tablet!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Original message follows ---
>>>> Subject: Re: Maemo Site
>>>> From:  Andre Cunha 
>>>> To: "Tim" 
>>>> CC: "List for community development" ,"Henri
>>>> Bergius" 
>>>> Date: 12/17/2008 8:32 am
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> we were not able to fix some css validation problems till midday
so I
>>>> can show just a work in progress by now. Im pushing here the
deadline to the
>>>> end of the day so we can have this home page validated and pixel
perfect by
>>>> then. There is a lot of misaligned elements yet but he just
finished the
>>>> validation the code so far and now he is fine-tuning the css.
>>>>
>>>> WIP: http://openbossa.andrecunha.com/maemo/
>>>>
>>>> Andre Cunha
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Andre Cunha
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Henry,
>>>>> Im not sure if this was made clear here in the list. We didn't
have
>>>>> anyone available for assembling htmls here in indt last week.
As you know, I
>>>>> started with the design guidelines (layouting), now Glaubert is
taking care
>>>>> of applying for the other pages, but we didnt have a third
person available
>>>>> that could assemble htmls within those technical guidelines set
by you. On
>>>>> friday, a colleague became available for that and he promptly
started. Yes,
>>>>> things were already late, but I would still prefer to give him
the time he
>>>>> asked for doing the home page, since he feels more comfortable
in spending
>>>>> at least 4 or 5 days with the first CSSs for the home page to
make
>>>>> everything easier for the further pages.But  4/5 days sounded
too much, so
>>>>> he is giving his best to have it done by tomorrow lunchtime
(recife time).
>>>>> we are sorry for the delay,
>>>>> I hope this is ok for everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> best,
>>>>> Andre
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Tim  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At this point, I think it's the end of this week, but...
Andre? Can
>>>>>> you give us an update on the progress?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Original message follows ---
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maemo Site
>>>>>> From:  Henri Bergius 
>>>>>> To: "Tim" ,"List for community development"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CC: "Niels Breet" 
>>>>>> Date: 12/15/2008 11:21 pm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/12/15 Tim :
>>>>>> > Yes, and by "coding" I mean html/css... Which I thought
Glaubert had
>>>>>> > agreed
>>>>>> > to. This is what we found out was untrue and now someone is
working
>>>>>> > under
>>>>>> > Andre to accomplish this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ETA? We still need to book some time for reviewing the
HTML to
>>>>>> ensure it fits easily into the various different systems
running
>>>>>> *.maemo.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Henri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Henri Bergius
>>>>>> Nemein - Web Craftsmanship
>>>>>> http://nemein.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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