[maemo-community] maemo.org redesign

[From: Jussi.H Makinen]

Very true, I have to admit that I have payed more attention to the
mockups than the discussion itself.  And as this is needs to be truly
a democratic design process, I totally understand that my opinion is
as good as any other so I'm very open to depate. Even with Quim :-)
All the mockups so far are great improvements to the current state of
maemo.org so the direction is good. That said, there's so many good
things going on in Andre's first mockup that it would be a shame to
abandon those in favor of more compromised and crammed design.

The hot & fresh items are good and serve a fantastic function, but the
placement seems to unbalance the rest of the design. So my vote is to
put the fresh downloads into the front tab in the right hand side. And
the balance is restored :-)

Jussi


On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:03 AM, ext Tim <tim at samoff.com> wrote:
> Jussi,
>
> As a designer, I completely agree. But, as this discussion has
> played-out, others have weighed-in with other opinions -- which Andre
> and I have tried (brilliantly ;) )to accomodate.
>
> Intoyour opinion, is it worth a little more debate?
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:50:13 +0300
> "Jussi.H Makinen" <jussi.h.makinen at nokia.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> To my eye, Andre's  first layout
>> (http://openbossa.andrecunha.com/HOME.jpg) has the best looks. Forcing
>> two big download banners to the front page does not seem like an
>> elegant solution compared to the original. The main app promotion page
>> for users should anyway be at maemo.nokia.com and further down the
>> road I can see the application manger itself handling lot's of this
>> "most downloaded" "fresh" etc. stuff. So, why push it here? Not sure
>> who does it serve...
>>
>> Also the right hand side gets ugly with two big boxes, people thing
>> and the bulky banners. Again Andre's first mock-up serves a much more
>> elegant solution. And the download and people counters could be again
>> implemented much more nicely to the tabs.
>>
>> Jussi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:03 PM, ext Andre Cunha
>> <andre.cunha at openbossa.org> wrote:
>> > Hello guys,
>> > here's another proposal: http://openbossa.andrecunha.com/HOMEB.jpg
>> >
>> > Andre Cunha
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Tim <tim at samoff.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Some modifications with the idea that the right sidebar stays:
>> >>
>> >> Logged-out:
>> >> http://samoff.maemobox.org/maemo_redesign/samoff-maemo.org-redesign_idea_0009b-loggedout.png
>> >> Logged-in:
>> >> http://samoff.maemobox.org/maemo_redesign/samoff-maemo.org-redesign_idea_0009b-loggedin.png
>> >>
>> >> The "Maemo description area disappears for logged-in users
>> >> I added "Documentation" to the global nav
>> >> Since the sidebar is retained, "Get Involved" is the global
>> >> "Community" link
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> ---
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> Subject: Re: maemo.org redesign
>> >> From:  Tim <tim at samoff.com>
>> >> To: "Andrew Flegg" <maemo-community at maemo.org>,"List for community
>> >> development" <maemo-community at maemo.org>
>> >> Date: 10/14/2008 6:40 am
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Sorry... Time-zone deficiencies here. ;)
>> >>
>> >> > we *need* to re-introduce -
>> >> > there's no "Documentation" link
>> >>
>> >> Sure. This could be placed in the global nav in the header -- I
>> >> think I just forgot. :p
>> >>
>> >> > Also, this design (unless the sidebar
>> >> > is permanent) has no scope for the search box[1] and log in
>> >> > information being part of the permanent navigation structure.
>> >>
>> >> The search/login could be left in the right sidebar (globally),
>> >> while changing other content, etc... Just a thought. We _could_
>> >> make the search/login area appear to be more "attached" to the
>> >> header if need be.
>> >>
>> >> > In my opinion, I really want to have a good search box.
>> >>
>> >> I agree... Time and resources. ;)
>> >>
>> >> > I disagree on both counts - "bugs" shouldn't be a top-level
>> >> > link, it belongs in both "Community" and "Development".
>> >>
>> >> I agree that I disagree (er, I mean, I side with Dave!). These are
>> >> things that can be located eleswhere -- for those _brave_ enough
>> >> to enter the fold, so to speak.
>> >>
>> >> > Fine. The wider point still stands: there's no global
>> >> > "Community" link.
>> >>
>> >> This could also be placed in the header nav (with "Documentation").
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for all of the feedback!
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> Weblog ~ http://tim.samoff.com
>> >> Kidblog ~ http://kc.samoff.com
>> >> Photography ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/timsamoff
>> >> Film ~ http://www.youtube.com/timsamoff
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> Subject: Re: maemo.org redesign
>> >> From:  Andrew Flegg <andrew at bleb.org>
>> >> To: "List for community development" <maemo-community at maemo.org>
>> >> Date: 10/14/2008 2:35 am
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Dave Neary <dneary at maemo.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I disagree on both counts - "bugs" shouldn't be a top-level
>> >> > link, it belongs in both "Community" and "Development".
>> >> > Documentation shouldn't be a top-level link, it belongs in
>> >> > "Development", "Get help" and "Get involved".
>> >>
>> >> Fine. The wider point still stands: there's no global "Community"
>> >> link.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Andrew
>> >>
>> >> --
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