[maemo-community] maemo.org paid contributors (was Re: Monthly Sprint Proposal)
From: Tim tim at samoff.comDate: Thu Apr 9 04:02:46 EEST 2009
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http://maemo.org/maemo-meeting/ Qole wrote: > I just want to apologize for my poor wording. I do not intend to > "police" and "boss" anyone. > > And nobody is in my "crosshairs". > > But I have been extremely unclear as to what my role as a Councilor is, > in relation to the paid maemo.org <http://maemo.org> team, the > community, and Nokia. Where does everyone sit here? As I've asked > before, what are my responsibilities? > > Quim has made it clear that there is definitely some expectation that > the Council, as representatives of the Community, has some > responsibility to assess the performance of the maemo.org > <http://maemo.org> team, especially since the final hiring (and contract > renewal) decision seems to rest at least partly on us. > > I am taking my role as Councilor very seriously, but I need to know > exactly what that means before I can do a good job at it. I can't do a > good job if I don't really know what a "good job" looks like. Thanks to > Jaffa's work on the wiki page, that is getting clearer, and this thread > is making things clearer still. (I think Jaffa could probably update our > page with some of the things in this thread) > > Jeremiah, I think you need to realize that the community and the Council > needs you to do a bit more reporting, with more detail and precision, > than perhaps is "usual", for the simple reason that your position really > is unprecedented. We mostly know what a webmaster is supposed to do. > Webmasters have been around for a few years, and there's lots of them > out there. > > But what does a debmaster do? Well, since there haven't been any > debmasters before (that I know of), we are relying on four things: > (1) our own expectations: what do we think you should do? > (2) your job description: what were you hired to do? > (3) your past activities: what have you been doing so far? > (4) your future goals: what are you (and the community) planning for you > to do in the future? > > The problem I had at first, and I think this is the source of the > frustration you sensed in me, is that I was relying on (1) too much, if > not entirely; I had a set of preconceived ideas about what you were > going to do, and when I perceived that you didn't seem to be doing some > of the things I wanted you to do, I became somewhat disappointed. But > I've since realized that this was an unfair assessment, since, of all > the things in my list, (1) is the least useful measurement. > > In fact, I would say that (1) is not only useless, but quite dangerous. > It should be eliminated as quickly as possible, to be replaced by the > other three things. So I've set about trying to get some of the other > three things into place. Items (3) and (4) are the subject of this > thread, and it seems that you and Tim are working on (2) right now, too. > > I sincerely believe that getting good reporting, processes and > documentation into place here will benefit everyone, and reduce the > chances of things "getting ugly" in the future. I want lots of > transparency, and I really want good will. > > I'm really sorry if I have caused any loss of good will here; that was > not my intent and it isn't useful in building community or developing a > working relationship. > > As an addendum: Looking at the way people are quoting my hastily chosen > words, everyone seems to have access to the logs of the maemo-meeting > channel for that meeting. Where are they to be found? Can someone > provide a link? > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Tim <tim at samoff.com > <mailto:tim at samoff.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > Jeremiah: I understand where you are coming from, but... > > > ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > This is exactly what is happening now. When Alan writes > > "I'm still unclear about the council's role in "policing" the paid > > maemo.org <http://maemo.org> team. > > I hope I'm not assuming too much by saying that Alan just asking a > question here. As a new member of a Council who is only just beginning > its second term of existence, he is honestly unclear about some of the > processes... Which, as a Council member, I am too. These are the things > that we've been elected to work out, as Alan is attempting to do -- in > an open, community-oriented discussion. > > > The current council is ignoring this and looking for ways to "police" > > and "boss" before the roles are defined. > > I disagree. In fact, I've asked you (twice now) to send a statement of > your own roles/responsibilities to the community for review and > discussion. I still haven't seen it. > > I'm not saying that I think you are doing poorly -- from what I've seen, > I think you are doing a great job -- but what Alan is doing is what I > have asked you to do. (Two way street?) > > -- > http://tim.samoff.com > _______________________________________________ > maemo-community mailing list > maemo-community at maemo.org <mailto:maemo-community at maemo.org> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community > > -- http://tim.samoff.com
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