[maemo-community] Election process referendum
From: Ryan Abel rabelg5 at gmail.comDate: Mon Feb 2 22:12:29 EET 2009
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On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Graham Cobb wrote: > On Monday 02 February 2009 12:02:01 Andrew Flegg wrote: > >> I certainly *wouldn't* be happy if - at the last minute - the karma >> requirement was dropped again. > > Eh???? I am not happy that the karma requirement, which was dropped > after > protest the last time around, is being raised again at the last > minute! > > I obviously had exactly the opposite assumption from you: I had > assumed that > in the absence of a proposal to the contrary, the same rules as last > time > would be in place. Dave covered everything I was intending to say on this point nicely this morning. (Thanks, Dave! :D) >> I also strongly disagree with those who say that karma shouldn't be >> used for this... > > Karma has moved from just measuring developer contribution to a > wider measure > of contribution to the Maemo community. That certainly makes it more > suitable to use as a basis than it was, but it still effectively > excludes > users of the Maemo community (consumers rather than contributors). > Maybe > that is the way it should be: maybe the council **should** represent > contributors rather than users, but we should at least get the > opinion of the > users on whether they care. Dave also hit the nail on the head here, but I'll elaborate a bit. The Council isn't in place as a consumer activism group. We're here for the *community* and its members (i.e., contributors), which is only a subset of all users (i.e., owners). Users are better served by Nokia Care, Nokia's consumer research efforts and Nokia's various end- user sites (like maemo.nokia.com). *Our* job is to see to the interests of the people who participate in the community and invest time in the platform. Some of these interests overlap with the interests of users, and many of them indirectly benefit users, but users aren't our constituency, and their interests aren't the interests we're here to forward. This may sound harsh to some, but what user interests can we really serve? "I want a cheaper tablet.", "I want a Maemo cellphone.", or "I want a PIM suite." These decisions are largely up to Nokia, and I'm quite certain Nokia is well aware of them through their various feedback channels, and consumer research efforts (why do you think the N810 has a keyboard?). Additional requests from a council wouldn't be particularly useful or effective—there isn't much the Council can do for *users*. Now, *contributors* on the other hand have interests well-served by an active "advocacy" group. "What can we do to help move the platform towards open source?", "How can we improve the approachability of the platform for developers?", or "What sort of collaboration can we foster between the community and Nokia?" These are issues we can address and make progress on, these involve more than just telling Nokia what we think they should do, they involve working with both the community and Nokia and making real progress. These are the interests we can address and these are the people who will vote to elect their representatives. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair
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