[maemo-community] Trump Voting

[From: timeless]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Frantisek Dufka <dufkaf at seznam.cz> wrote:
> When examining all votes http://maemo.org/vote/votes.php?election_id=6
> it looks to me like maybe some people did not understand what STV
> exactly means and instead voted as if we had some variant of ranking,
> like in method 3 -
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Counting_methods
>
> Maybe next time it would be useful to add some simplified description +
> link to details of voting method to voting page.

You should, yes, along with real sample ballots and the ability to
tinker with a single ballot (or even a number of them) to see how the
election changes.

That said, having read all of the messages in this thread down to
Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Benson Mitchell

I think I'm confident in saying that I won't be able to understand it.


I proposed on IRC and will repeat here that we should consider the
Trump method of voting or the Dancing-Idol variant.

Both Trump's method and the variant are exceedingly popular with the
American public, and it seems the public in other countries including
England and Finland.

A short outline of the Trump method:
1. all candidates are hired.
2. all candidates work together every week
3. at the end of a week, someone is fired
4. this repeats until there are no excess candidates (in Trump's
version there's only 1 slot and hence it stops when there are fewer
than 2 candidates)

In the Dancing-Idol variant, the weakest candidate is kicked off by
losing a popular vote.

In practice, this means for a council, that all the council member
candidates attend council meetings each week until they're fired. They
all work on projects (as assigned and agreed by themselves) based on
tasks presented by the moderator (Trump, but in the real community,
I'm sure that the community and Nokia will provide the problems). Most
work is done in public (recorded by tv cameras or irc logs/wiki
pages).

BTW, a good way to get fired is to not show up for work. In practice
this would mean missing an IRC meeting.

The good thing about this process is that you can try out all the
candidates and see which can work together and a candidate can choose
to leave on his/her own.

I recently watched a Top Chef episode where one of the cooks told the
judges that he should be kicked off for that week (essentially he fell
on his sword to defend the team leader). The judges indicated it was
their decision, however they in the end agreed and kicked him off.

This seems to work around the world and with teams.