[maemo-community] Sprint Task Status Update SSO
From: Ferenc Szekely ferenc at maemo.orgDate: Fri Nov 6 00:04:57 EET 2009
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Hello, penguinbait wrote: > > OK, so I now go look at 9.10-07 > 9.10-07 Server migration Must Ferenc > <http://maemo.org/profile/view/feri/> 0% Servers will be available in > November only. > > Why will Servers be available in November only? Is there a purchase > your waiting for, a delivery, some code to move, what does this mean? > To me a migration consists of plenty of steps prior to getting a > physical box. I assume ideas and plans for the migration have been > discussed and laid out, wouldn't this be greater than 0%. > I don't know if all the HW is available at the ISP, but what I was told is that they will start putting the machines to the rack, connecting cables, setting up firewalls, routers, other network elements in November. Why? Probably due to paper work between them an Nokia, perhaps some resource scheduling, perhaps delayed purchasing. All the work I did regarding migration in October was a meeting with Tero and commenting on a preliminary server map written by the ISP (comments: 2-3 sentences in an email). I don't consider this a progress, hence 0% reported. For obvious reasons we do not review server plans in the public. For other reasons the guys from the new ISP will not report progress publicly. Things started to move forward this week only. Yesterday I sent an email about our current server map to the ISP and reported it in #maemork [1]. Did you miss it? > I went to the maemork and read, but I don't see anything about these > tasks, nothing informative anyway. > You found nothing about server move, because nothing happened. It is no one's fault. I am on alert with a couple of guys and will be installing services as soon as we get the machines. The community will hear from the progress. > I guess I am looking for a way to actually see whats going on without > asking different people questions about every task in the list. It > would be much cleaner to periodically report status and in one location, > which would also save on mis-communication and perceived attitudes when > people ask questions. > The #maemork channel [2] on qaiku.com is the place for "semi real time" status reporting, isn't it? Personally I don't mind copy-pasting my qaiku messages to an email, if somebody would prefer that. I just see no added value in it. > This all stemmed from me trying to get involved to help in any way with > the SSO task as it is VERY important to ME. I finally found out that > the task is actually not 0% and its waiting for another task to > complete. So prior to sending out an email to Ferenc asking if there > was anyway I could help with that task, I decided to find out what the > heck I am supposed to be reading to find this out. > SSO: please talk to Daniel [3] and Alexey [4]. I am not involved with SSO. One thing for sure: server migration comes without SSO. > I point this out as I believe I am far from the only one with this > confusion and I think its an obstacle to getting more people involved on > a project or task. Furthermore I really don't think 4-5 edits in a wiki > a month is too much to ask for. Although hating wiki's myself, I am not > against another form to provide status updates, as long as they are > consistent among tasks and easy to find. > I always report _if_ there is progress made. > As a council member, I believe its my job to get more people and the > right people involved in the tasks that I think benefit the community. > The difficulty became for me finding out what people are working on and > what roadblocks or obstacles are in there way. > Sure thing, I know the rules. Talking about myself only: I am happy to inform you, or anybody about my tasks, progress, whatever related to Maemo. I did not receive many questions about my activities in the past, maybe this will change now. No problem, I will be happy answering your questions. If I am not able to answer I will tell you whom else to contact ;) > While I do not want to become another obstacle to any task, I would like > to see more informative status updates be placed into the Sprint pages. > Especially on any sprint task with the priority of "must". > Agreed. > > Matt Lewis > Br, ferenc [1] http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork/view/1dec9b12cc931c8c9b111dea843f1561d5250d250d2/ [2] maemork - status reports from maemo staff http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork [3] Daniel's maemo profile http://maemo.org/profile/view/danielwilms/ [4] Alexey's maemo profile http://maemo.org/profile/view/indeyets/
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