[maemo-community] Brainstorm: useful?

[From: Quim Gil]

Ping? Not a single answer or apparent progress in 3 weeks? It would be
good to know at least whether you find my feedback sensible or not.

-- 
Quim Gil
open source advocate
Maemo Devices @ Nokia



Quim Gil wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> ext Henri Bergius wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The new Brainstorm UI is available for testing on internal now (for
>> those who have access there). 
> 
> fwiw, copying here the feedback sent to Oskari. I also moved
> http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/landing_in_brainstorm/ to
> Under Development.
> 
> ext Oskari Kokko wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> The new UI for brainstorm is now in testing-phase on internal.
> 
> Feedback on the basic things:
> 
> Checking the URL as anonymous throws plenty of errors
> 
> Warning:
> call_user_func(net_nehmer_comments_comment::get_parent_guid_uncached_static)
> [function.call-user-func]: First argument is expected to be a valid
> callback in /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/_dbfactory.php on
> line 465
> 
> They disappear if you log in.
> 
>>> What's done at this point:
>>> * New navigation
> 
> The concept is good, but about the presentation we agreed on using the
> right column, getting rid of the Community navigation ("Mailing lists",
> "Wiki" etc).
> 
> The items could be sorted this way in the column:
> 
> ABOUT BRAINSTORM
> "This text is intented to be short welcoming text. You can edit this
> from component configuration. <link>More</link> (HIDE)
> 
> MY BRAINSTORMS
> Proposals: 0
> Solutions: 0
> Thumbs Up: 0
> Thumbs Down: 0
> 
> NEW PROPOSAL
> 
> SHOW (Feed icon)
> 
> Category
> All ^
> 
> Status
> All ^
> 
> Milestone
> All ^
> 
> Sorted by
> Votes ^
> 
> 
>>> * Fixed rss-links
> 
> Didn't test but the URLs look good.   ;)
> 
>>> * Welcome-text (if you hide welcome text while logged in, hiding get's
>>> saved to your person stats and it stays hidden)
> 
> Nice idea. 3-4 lines in the column + a link to
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_brainstorm is all we need.
> 
>>> * Lovered the amount of words viewed in listing phase
> 
> Still the lists look unfinished. Adding the solutions gives too much
> information. I would go for lists with simpler entries for each proposal
> allowing listing more proposals in a single page. Thingls like who
> posted the proposal and when are less relevant. The format could be:
> 
> <Listing criteria e.g. "Sandbox, waiting, sorted by popular">
> 
> <Vote proposal widget> <Proposal title>
> <Category> - Filed by <user> on <YYYY-MM-DD>
> <Proposal excerpt>
> 
> <Vote proposal widget> <Proposal title>
> <Category> - Filed by <user> on <YYYY-MM-DD>
> <Proposal excerpt>
> 
> etc
> 
> No selected solutions, no "Comment on idea or propose a solution" since
> it's in the title link already.
> 
> 
> 
>>> * Selected solutions are now show a bit better in idea view.
> 
> It took me a while to realize that there is no "+ ADD NEW SOLUTION"
> button, but a duplicate "MY BRAINSTORMS" button linking correctly to the
> URL to submit a new idea.
> 
> Still, I couldn't find a page to check how a page with several solutions
> proposed and one selected looks like. I tried to move
> /community/brainstorm/view/maemo_should_run_on_netbooks/
> to Under development selecting one or two solutions but I'm missing
> permissions.
> 
>>> There is still some things to do about what we agreed a week ago, but
>>> this much I got done now, continuing after few days. I would like to
>>> hear some testreports from you, is there any bugs and is there
> something
>>> completely wrong.
> 
> You also improved the homepage!!
> 
> I fail to deduce what are "Coldest solutions" and "Most commented"
> should probably go out since the comments need to go out altogether
> since Talk discussion will come instead. But I see where you are going
> so let me propose something to expand it:
> 
> Hot proposals				Hot solutions
> * <karma> <proposal title>		* <karma> <solution title> on
> * 175 Maemo should run on netbooks	<proposal title>
> * 10 listed				* 5 listed
> 
> Fresh proposals				Fresh solutions
> * <MMM D> <proposal title>		* <MMM D> <solution title> on
> * Nov 2 - Maemo should run on netbooks	<proposal title>
> * 10 listed				* 5 listed
> 
> Development started			Implemented
> * <proposal title>			* <proposal title>
> * Up to 10 listed			* Up to 10 listed
> 
> Need voters				Need solutions
> * <proposal title>			* <proposal title>
> * Up to 10 listed			* Up to 10 listed
> 			
> where
> 
> Hot proposals = Proposals with highest thumbs up + thumbs down Under
> Consideration
> 
> Hot solutions = Solutions with highest thumbs up + thumbs down Under
> Consideration
> 
> Fresh proposals = New proposals Under consideration
> 
> Fresh solutions = New solutions Under considerations
> 
> Development started = New proposals Under Development
> 
> Implemented = New proposals Implemented
> 
> Need voters = New proposals in Sandbox
> 
> Need solutions = New proposals without solutions in Sandbox
> 
> ****
> 
> I believe people will look and use Brainstrom differently with such main
> page.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Also Misc:
> 
> - Let's remove comments altogether. For now links to Talk threads can be
> added manually to the proposals while being in Sandbox.
> 
> - Voting proposals is still missing. Just a friendly reminder.   :)
> 
> - We agreed that solutions can't be voted while being in Sandbox. At
> that stage it should be possible to vote only the Proposals.
> 
> - I can vote one thumbs up and one thumbs down on the same idea. This is
> a common problem of the widget, since it's the same in Packages. Not
> always though. The desired behavior is a toggle to vote either thumbs up
> or down, or at least clicking again on a thumbs up/down would restate
> the vote to 0.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> For others, I posted a screenshot of the
>> new front page:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bergie/4067327297/
>>
>> In the new UI ideas can be filtered based on Status, Milestone and
>> Category, or a combination of those. Each of such lists has an RSS
>> feed, so this should make it easy to follow the areas of Maemo you're
>> interested in.
>>
>> 2009/11/1 Randall Arnold <texrat at ovi.com>:
>>> - we decide upon action tags for Brainstorm items, to be used by Brainstorm
>>> subforum moderators (currently Quim and myself) in posts designed to move
>>> things forward
>> Categorization and statuses on Brainstorm should handle that for you,
>> or would you like additional tags (folksonomy) to ideas/solutions?
>>
>>> - automation implented to fire off emails to appropriate parties and/or lists
>>> based on tag values
>> There is an RSS feed which IMO is better for notifications.
>>
>>> -Randy
>> /Henri
>>
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