[maemo-community] "Community service pack"

[From: Mohammad Abu-Garbeyyeh]

On 12/15/2010 09:11 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote:
>  On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Thomas Perl <th.perl at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
> > Wasn't one of the advantages of the SSU to be able to update
> > single packages from official repositories if need be? Would it be
> > possible to provide updated (and fixed) packages of Qt 4.7 and Qt
> > Mobility through the official channels as a single-package SSU, as
> > opposed to doing a PR1.4 (which probably requires building of new
> > images as well)? This way, users and developers just need to
> > update through the
>
>  QtM yes, Qt no (because Qt is part of the core set of applications).
>
>  The only way to update Qt currently would be to make yet another
>  "hotfix" hack that does dpkg-divert for all the libs. Or, install a
>  new Qt alongside the system Qt (as done by various -experimental
>  packages).
>

The SSU is able to upgrade system packages, that's the whole point of it,
and QtM can indeed be upgraded through extras(-devel).

> > dependencies on them and what not. If Nokia is really not
> > interested in releasing any updates for Maemo 5, we should better
> > focus on empowering the Fremantle Community SSU and releasing fixed
> > Qt packages through that channel, and make sure that everyone uses
> > the Community SSU. This would be more sane, cleaner and less
> > confusing than the
>
>  Problem with community SSU is, does it have enough resources for
>  testing and development? We still got tons of "normal" N900 users
>  (those probably are not reading maemo-community) that are not
>  interested in switching to a community ssu - and risk breaking
>  elementary stuff. IIUC it's still a pretty small effort, without so
>  much as a mailing list.
>
>  A "service pack" would be a safe thing for developers to depend on,
>  as it would keep the device mostly on the beaten path. Not much
>  development work would go into it, just bare essentials needed for
>  tolerable operation.
>
>  Such a service pack can only get us so far, so a full blown
>  community SSU is needed eventually - going forward, I would be
>  surprised if we didn't have most of the meego stack & applications
>  working on maemo5 (but still have hildon-home etc).
>
> > Please, no more dirty workarounds and hacks. Just push Qt + Qt
>
>  Dirty workarounds and hacks are what can be done right now.

Not really, a working SSU is what should be done right now.
If any dirty workarounds have to be done, I would've removed Nokia's
repositories from the trusted list in HAM's configuration file and announced
the SSU long ago.
Sadly, no one's offering to help with it, might as well start reading all of
HAM's source to see what goes where and why.

Regards,
Mohammad Abu-Garbeyyeh
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