[maemo-community] Minutes from community meeting today
From: Dave Neary dneary at maemo.orgDate: Mon May 17 18:43:10 EEST 2010
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Hi all, We had the community meeting (not a sprint meeting as such, more a brainstorm about where we're at, how we're working, how we can set goals and work better), and I think it was useful. Here are the minutes. The main conclusion is that we are going to run a 7 day brainstorm to help set some priorities for the community and specifically for the council & staff for the next 6 months. These are minutes, and of course a lot of things were said that are not in here. X-Fade has put the full IRC log online at: http://maemo.org/maemo-meeting/maemo-meeting-2010-05-17.html Cheers, Dave. Maemo Team Meeting 17/5/10 minutes Chair: Andrew Flegg Secretary: Dave Neary Agenda: 1. Review of progress over the past year of maemo.org team (open discussion) 2. Setting priorities for next 3 months for the community - not micro-tasks, but larger goals 3. Allocation of ownership & co-ordination responsibilities within these tasks to members of the maemo.org team 4. A full & frank discussion of the impact of the MeeGo project on the short-term goals of Maemo 5. AOB Present: Maemo Community Council: Jaffa, GAN900, javispedro, Texrat (GAN only sort of here) maemo.org staff: Andre, Dave, Niels, Karsten, Carsten, Henri, Ferenc, Alexey (from Nemein) Nokia: Daniel Wilms Maemo community: Many others - total attendance ~45. Nick legend: Jaffa: Andrew Flegg GAN900: Ryan Abel javispedro: Javi Pedro Texrat: Randall Arnold X-Fade: Niels Breet dneary: Dave Neary Stskeeps: Carsten Munk bergie: Henri Bergius JimiDini: Alexey 1. Review of progress (general discussion) • Small progress constantly being made, but no real concerted effort to target big goals over the past year • Sprint meetings became checklist meetings where broader discussion was ruled off-topic (and often status updates were quite vague - no transparency or accountability for late/deferred tasks) • Not much demand or agenda coming from Maemo community - maemo.org staff feel like they have to set their own agendas • Proposal that 6 month arcs where we relaunch and reprioritise bigger goals, perhaps synced with council terms, would work well • maemo.org backlog is perceived as being owned by maemo.org staff & Nokia - people aren't sure if they're welcome to add tasks there • ACTION: Maemo Community Council to provide constructive feedback to maemo.org staff after the meeting: Jaffa 2. Six-month priorities for project: • X-Fade: maemo.org in 6 months should be in a stable state where we can live with it being like that forever, and it can support Maemo users who don't want to move to MeeGo • Jaffa: Things done in next 6 months should have a long-term benefit to maemo.org or be transferrable to MeeGo • bergie: SSO, transitioning Downloads to come from Packages • dneary: How does/should MeeGo affect the Maemo agenda? GAN900: That's unclear for now • Stskeeps: Think of MeeGo as a child of Maemo & Moblin - what should we do as responsible parents? • ACTION: Run a 1 week brainstorm similar to 100Days for the next 6 months agenda: dneary • Likely priorities for next 6 months: SS0, Products interface • Suggestion from Jaffa: "once tasks are assigned; after the brainstorm should we say: 1) Monthly blog posts (syndicated to planet) or emails (which can be consolidated by the council into one blog post) for each task; and a biweekly (i.e. every 2 weeks) catch-up meeting" 3. maemo.org team workflow • There is a feeling that reporting is still not good • BAU tasks take so much time that there is often not time to add new tasks (X-Fade) • Bergie: We just had a 2 day hackfest with X-Fade on the Packages interface. Jaffa: How can you complain about lack of community input when such things happen in the background? • Monthly reports are not sufficient - reports tend to be too fuzzy to allow for delegation - tasks get bundled up to "Progress slow" or "Not finished yet" (dneary) • "I spend over 2 hours a day reading forums, email, blogs, tweets, keeping up with all the information cuts into work time" (X-Fade) • For accountability, regular questions on mailing lists should work - dneary. "Except requests for information go unanswered" (Jaffa) • Discussion on the effectiveness of sprint page + qaiku - dneary: No idea how many people visit qaiku or the sprint page daily. Mailing lists & forums better indicator of activity. X-Fade: I report on Qaiku - people can link to that from wherever they want. dneary: When there are 4 places where people can report progress, it's easy to miss reporting. Jaffa: We use jira at work, and when I'm travelling I expect it to be up to date. • "I would much prefer using Bugzilla to track TODOs and use mailing lists to brainstorm & get feedback & update proposals" - dneary 4. Running the brainstorm • Create threads per part of maemo.org in forums • Advertise the brainstorm widely (blog, news, mailing lists) with link to Talk threads • Synthesis discussion & proposals from threads in wiki pages • ACTION: Create initial threads & announcements (dneary) 5. Effect of MeeGo on Maemo agenda General agreement that it was early to say what the effect of MeeGo might have on Maemo. ACTION: Community Council to contact Tero Kojo to ask about future maemo.org maintenance budget (Jaffa) 6. AOB ACTION: dneary to produce minutes, X-Fade to publish IRC log -- maemo.org docsmaster Email: dneary at maemo.org Jabber: bolsh at jabber.org
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