[maemo-community] Election announcement article (formatting & questions)

From: Sunny B sunnyb7532 at gmail.com
Date: Fri Aug 19 05:51:17 EEST 2011
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Andrew Flegg <andrew at bleb.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 22:17, Andrew Flegg <andrew at bleb.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 16:11, Sunny B <sunnyb7532 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Andrew Flegg <andrew at bleb.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Is this a binary selection:
> >>>
> >>>  "Should the Community Council form a governance structure which
> >>>   sees the continued survival of maemo.org without Nokia involvement?
> >>>
> >>>   [  ] Yes
> >>>   [  ] No"
> >>>
> >> Yes, like this but "Should the Community Council be authorized so that
> it
> >> can form..."
> >
> > Better.
> I don't see the options as limited "form a legal entity like a
> not-for-profit" (lots of work) or "let maemo.org die", though.

Agreed.  The referendum is rather open-ended and permits a variety of
governance options.  Deriving from your comment earlier, the current
referendum wording "authorizes" the council so the objections to binding
nature are no longer on point.

I've seen your comment that the authorization in the referendum isn't
necessary since Council already has this authority.  Well, there were a
variety of prior comments that its authority was only in relation to Nokia
or in any event it wasn't intended that Council would be guiding a software
organization without being dependent on Nokia.  So you can perhaps, with
your opinion of Councils previous authority, consider the referendum as

Most other comments that I have seen are beyond the topic of merely
"authorizing" the council to form a governance that doesn't depend on Nokia.
Especially after I changed the wording to make the referendum less
substantial.  If you want to have the debate over the specific NFP
structure, I can change the referendum back and we can do that.  Otherwise,
let's get on with it and not make it harder than it needs to be.  I would
think it is convenient that the referendum vote takes place at the same time
as a council vote.

> For example, what about using an *existing* legal entity? Specifically,
> Nemein:
>  http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1072725#post1072725
> Short version: through some mechanism would Nemein be willing to take
> on more with money coming in from three sources, whilst
> simulataneously responsible for reducing costs (and, indeed, driven
> to):
>  * Community donations/subscriptions via $PAYMENT_METHOD.
>  * Own budgets as a loss-leader to demonstrate Nemein's skills to prospects
>    for larger contracts.
>  * Nokia at a lower-level of money and still providing trademark usage &
>    grants (for example).
> Cheers,
> Andrew
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