[maemo-community] Harmattan & Maemo Community
From: Quim Gil quim.gil at nokia.comDate: Fri May 6 20:03:50 EEST 2011
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Hi, I have shared my opinions and all I know and can say at http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2719 - and in other threads even before. Summarizing what I *personally* think as a Maemo & MeeGo community member (and as a Harmattan tester too): - No matter what, the big % of users will go where the big % of users of DeviceX can be found, regardless of the URL, name of the OS, packaging format and system architecture. As others have said, let's wait to the DeviceX launch to discuss this further since now nobody (no-bo-dy) has all the pieces needed to bring a good discussion and propose a good decision. - Application development support and discussions for the most part are going to be based on Qt. I don't think Qt developers have the luxury to split hairs about the postMaemo-preMeeGo discussion while the big wheels of iOS, Android and others keep turning. Instead, they should be better thinking how to bridge better with Symbian and the other Qt compatible desktop and embedded platforms in order to make the most of their work. Depending on their motivations and targets each one may find their home in the Qt upstream community, Forum Nokia (if you are targeting Symbian/Ovi too, AppUp, meego.com (those prioritizing the Linux & open source way), etc. - Platform development discussions will gravitate towards meego.com since the interesting pieces of Harmattan are basically common to MeeGo, candidates or closed source complements covering features that MeeGo vendors will probably need to cook themselves as well. More *personal* opinions: - I hope Harmattan is accepted as a target for the meego.com Community OBS and apps.meego.com. This was discussed back at the time and is still the default assumption afaik but the final decision relies on the Community Office or the TSG, so basically Dawn or Imad have the last word. - Since we are talking about a Nokia product, the default locations for official Nokia involvement should be Forum Nokia (mainly for developers) and Nokia Support Discussions (mainly for users). And last but not least - I keep feeling amazed every time somebody says "Harmattan is not MeeGo" based on some architecture differences and then continues "Harmattan is Maemo" based on... what? No Fremantle UX, no Hildon and no GNOME-style API means a totally different story for most Maemo users and developers. Leave alone all the middleware pieces that were rewritten from Fremantle to Harmattan and happen to be the same or quite close to MeeGo. Sorry, but I don't buy that. If you insist that Harmattan is not MeeGo then you need to be consequent and reckon that Harmattan is not Maemo either. And once you are there please ask yourself how useful was for you and for the [LinuxMobile+Qt] community to stress the exceptions instead of the commonalities. Ville, I don't know what were you motivations stirring this discussion now but I still believe we can discuss a lot better when there is a device launch, or at least an official technical description of what is Harmattan. -- Quim
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