[maemo-community] Blocked Fremantle packages to promote [was: Re: Maemo Elections - Extended]

[From: Iván Gálvez Junquera]

Hi,

The Supertester initiative is discussed in the testing-squad mailing list
and also at TMO.

Anyway, I'll repost the summary here for those not subscribed to that
mailing list:

*
Rationale:*
Lack of testers and maintainers for applications has derived in a lot of
applications getting stuck at Extras Testing  even if they are suitable for
promotion.

We have even reach a situation in which most applications are not even
promoted by their developers to Testing (from Devel) due to the difficulty
to promote to Extras. The whole promotion system is perceived as useless.

*Solution:*
Considering that Maemo community is shrinking, we cannot continue with the
actual process. We need to both fix some issues in the whole process of
promotion and also grant more administrative privileges to Supertesters.

*New members proposed as Supertesters:*
These people have been suggested to become new Supertesters:

Demolition
vi_
ammyt
ivgalvez

Please any one else interested in become a new Superster send an email to
this mailing list.

*Proposed changes for the promotion process:*
This should be the easiest part of the changes that we are proposing.
- Promotion of applications from Testing to Extras should be automatic once
the requirements are fulfilled. No need of maintainer to actively promoting
the application.
This will allow orphaned applications to be promoted.

- Only one Supertester vote, enough to promote an application.
- Five User votes, enough to promote an application.
We are running out of man power.

All other criteria could be maintained as they are now.

Proposed new permissions/abilities for Supertesters:
- Add a new developer to maintainer list of any package.
- Delete a package from the repository.
- Edit bugtracker link.
- Ability to promote a package not only from Testing to Extras but also
from Devel to Testing.
- Ability to downgrade a package from Extras to Testing, and even to Devel.
- Ability to prevent automatic promotion of a package from Testing to
Extras (to avoid popular but potentially dangerous app to be promoted
automatically if reached the number of user votes needed).

So we should try to keep IRC conversation on how to achieve those points
(already discussed at TMO).

Regards


2012/4/3 Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen at gmail.com>

> Hi
>
> 3. huhtikuuta 2012 11.13 Iván Gálvez Junquera <ivgalvez at gmail.com>kirjoitti:
>
> Hi Andre,
>>
>> I have resend you the complete summary and the mailing list messages
>> regarding the Supertesters proposal. That proposal was first discussed at
>> TMO and once it was clear was moved to the appropriate mailing list. We
>> have been trying to contact Niels and Henry for a month now and haven't
>> received any response yet.
>>
>
> Why not keep the discussion on this list instead of private replies. There
> just might be people on this list who are also interested in it and could
> contribute..
>
>
> -Timo
>
>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> 2012/4/3 Andre Klapper <andre_klapper at gmx.net>
>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 13:55 -0400, robert bauer wrote:
>>> > There is a thread on the testing squad ML
>>>
>>>
>>> https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/testingsquad-list/2012-March/thread.html
>>>
>>> > and also a "supertesters" thread on the forum.
>>>
>>> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82374
>>>
>>> > Please also contact ivgalvez if you can offer help or advice.
>>>
>>> You foreshadowed some issues in the quote below, I asked you to
>>> elaborate on them. I won't read through the threads that I just had to
>>> find myself, sorry - instead I expected you to summarize the issues, as
>>> you initially came up with that topic here.
>>>
>>> In general it seems like there is a communication issue. It's depressing
>>> to see such problems only made half-public by the council now, just
>>> before an election.
>>>
>>> My two cents,
>>> andre
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Andre Klapper <andre_klapper at gmx.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >         On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 12:52 -0400, robert bauer wrote:
>>> >         > There are several reasons - the last reason for many of the
>>> >         developers
>>> >         > is that there are projects and software being developed
>>> >         which are
>>> >         > being hindered by the lack of cooperation we are getting
>>> >         from
>>> >         > Nokia/Nemein.  For example, we have a long list of fremantle
>>> >         packages
>>> >         > to be promoted and the blocker is Nokia/Nemein.  Extras
>>> >         downloads does
>>> >         > us little good if packages can't get into extras.  The
>>> >         problem is
>>> >         > serious - we can't even get replies to our emails.
>>> >
>>> >         Could you elaborate on this, if possible?
>>> >
>>> >         andre
>>> >
>>> >         --
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>>> >         http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
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