[maemo-community] N9 device seeding activity

From: Timo Härkönen timop.harkonen at gmail.com
Date: Sat Apr 21 23:52:15 EEST 2012
Hi

21. huhtikuuta 2012 23.44 Roberto Colistete Jr. <roberto.colistete at gmail.com
> kirjoitti:

> On 4/21/12, Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > 21. huhtikuuta 2012 20.24 Roberto Colistete Jr. <
> roberto.colistete at gmail.com
> >> kirjoitti:
> >
> >> To boost porting & releasing softwares for MeeGo Harmattan : Nokia
> >> Store & Apps ForMeeGo should be only a recommendation as they can't
> >> accept softwares with external dependencies like Maemo.org
> >> repositories.
> >>
> >
> > I don't see anyone saying that's the only way to go. If someone has needs
> > for a device to do an open source application with a purpose of
> publishing
> > it through the store I would see that as valid reason to ask for a device
> > given that there's enough reason to believe it will actually happen. Same
> > should apply for any other reason for requesting a device. platform
> > hacking, QA, application development, porting Qt5 or whatever.
> >
> > afaik the external dependency thing in apps.formeego is only a policy
> issue
> > not a technical thing. So not really an issue just something that needs
> to
> > be discussed. Actually what is the proper place to discuss things like
> > apps.formeego policy? As I've understood it the goal now is to unify
> things
> > with it and maemo.org by introducing maemo targets to obs. I'd think
> this
> > list would be it.
>
>     AFAIK, the external dependency limitation in Apps ForMeeGo is
> technical.
>

according to Niels (X-Fade) it is policy. see
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2012-04-17.log.html#t2012-04-17T18:28:01

-Timo


>
>    For example, I've packaged MatPlotLib (a well know FOSS Python
> library) and it is in a Talk Maemo.org
> (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80353) because it can't be
> published in Nokia Store / Apps ForMeeGo (because it needs external
> dependencies / multiple .debs).
>
>     Many other FOSS projects which can be ported to MeeGo Harmattan
> fall in the same limitation. Maemo 4/5 OS has Maemo.org repositories
> with dependencies capabilities.
>
> >> Even a .deb posted in a specific Talk Maemo.org topic should be enough
> >> because it is simple to install.
> >>
> >
> > IMHO not even close enough. We have repositories and build machinery for
> a
> > reason. things like ensuring clean build environment, making sure the
> > needed dependencies are there and so on. Besides most of the deb drops in
> > tmo I have seen do not even include a link to the sources so again no. We
> > should be encouraging people to use the proper channels to distribute
> their
> > stuff (be it the store, apps.formeego or maemo.org repos) not posting
> links
> > to binary deb packages in tmo.
>
>     Better : even a Talk Maemo.org topic (or link to other site) with
> links to source-code and .deb's. Ok ? Nobody is lazy here, like
> Inception, overclocking, etc projects.
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