[maemo-community] maemo.org services go to read only mode for the migration

[From: Joerg Reisenweber]

I don't know how to comment on that. 
Anyway up to you, you *could* decide to simply follow the path I opened up for 
everybody to get out of this mess. 

Just making stuff visible (fullquote below). So everybody in community can 
decide on his/her own who's to blame when tmo goes down.

/j


Di  18. Dezember 2012
> Joerg,
> 
> You are introducing a few misunderstandings/inaccuracies here:
> 
> - Reggie is donating TMO database to the Hildon Foundation as a legal
> entity capable of assuming that transfer. He has not mentioned the Council
> about that:
> *" I have decided that I will be donating the database to the foundation"*
> *
> *
> - You have been appointed as administration manager (not chief of
> administration) for maemo.org services, which is not including TMO
> specifically, though it would be desirable if you also help on that.
> 
> - Concerns about privacy are not just for administrators, but for legal
> entity owning the database, which is to be the foundation.
> 
> I would be happy if we can consolidate all the infra in the same host, but
> this is not a question to be decided neither by you or me, but Board and
> there are issues to be addressed for that.
> 
> On the other hand, I not really confident about hosting TMO with Nemein,
> when we don't know yet about budget. It's even more possible that we might
> need to move everything else to where we host TMO instead.
> 
> Please be more careful with your claims.
> 
> 2012/12/18 Joerg Reisenweber <joerg at openmoko.org>
> 
> > Di  18. Dezember 2012
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > On 18/12/12 15:58, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > > > Hi Ferenc,
> > > > a question regarding talk.maemo.org: is there room and resources left
> >
> > for
> >
> > > > running it on the new infra in a VM?
> > > > We need to move this service too, until end of this month ideally. I
> > > > think it would be very nice regarding administration when all maemo
> >
> > stuff
> >
> > > > is on one physical site.
> > > > Could you arrange for such VM to be set up or at least planned, so we
> >
> > (or
> >
> > > > you/Nemein, or both) eventually can do the migration?
> > > > What's your take on it?
> > >
> > > My 2cents: yes, in the current circumstances it would make sense to
> > > have the forum in the same hosting environment.
> > >
> > > However I have to pass this ball to Nemein, Reggie and the Foundation.
> >
> > Well, it seems Reggie offered to transfer tmo to either board or council,
> > and
> > I seem to recall he also offered to help with the migration.
> > Board decided they need a chief admin, and appointed me for that
> > position, partially because I'm already maemo councilor and thus "passed
> > the tests" and
> > could take responsibility.
> > So basically the ball is in Nemein's half now regarding that.
> >
> > And aiui this annoying concerns about location of tmo hosting are a
> > concern of
> > just current (Reggie) and future responsible admin (me) of the tmo VM.
> >
> >
> > Seems things could finally arrange in the nice way and just in time :-)
> > If board can negotiate an affordable agreement regarding future hosting
> > and technical/system admin.
> >
> > cheers
> > jOERG
>