[maemo-community] maemo.org infra safety - HiFo action URGENTLY needed.

[From: Craig Woodward]

> On March 12, 2014 at 9:35 PM joerg Reisenweber <joerg at openmoko.org> wrote:
> [2014-03-12 23:02:47] you should know that every single IP
> of a user, every single email alias or address is stuff that mustn't get
> disclosed to the public

And you should know that when companies negotiate IP, TM, and legal ownership
issues, those negotiations must also be private.  Funny how when you're "in
control" and feel on the hook for something, privacy is an ok thing.  But when
you have no input or legal impact, it's suddenly evil and fraught with deceit
and plotting.

Let's boil this down shall we?  It's a simple question:

WHAT DO *YOU* WANT TO SEE HAPPEN?

Everything I'm reading from you is "we don't need HiFo".

This is my vision of events if HiFo were to simply spin down:

+ HiFo begins the legal process of closing, and informs all entities (as it
legally must).
+ Nokia, having no time/desire to start anew (even if it had a legal entity to
deal with) asks that the servers be returned.
+ HiFo gives that request to TechStaff to implement (shutdown & hardware
return).

>From there, I see two possible outcomes:
1> Techstaff complies, the following chain plays out:
+ Nokia may be graceful enough to point M.O to a new home to house JUST TMO.
+ TMO must find new hardware to run on and/or a new home to live in.
+ We lose MO, and all facilities housed on the servers (CSSU, builder, garage,
wiki, etc).
+ Community suffers, we all lose a little (more if Nokia is less than gracious).

2> Techstaff refuses, the following chain plays out:
+ HiFo (as it legally must) informs Nokia of the situation.
+ Nokia is not graceful, removes DNS entries, site goes dark.
+ Nokia sends a notice to IPHH, and a request to ship it's hardware back.
+ IPHH being a for-profit company, that does not want to fight a legal battle
against with Nokia/MS, complies.
+ Admins are locked out, the servers turn off.
+ Maybe down the road someone sets up a box and "ITT2" can come back, but good
luck finding it.
+ Community fractures, we all lose hardcore.

In either case:
Eventually HiFo must find a place to send the remaining funds to, which must
(legally) be another NFP.


What alternate course do you see happening?  How does your insulting people (and
accusing others of child pornography) help that alternative course come into
being?  Or have you not thought that far ahead?

-Woody