[maemo-community] 2014-09-02_meeting_minutes

[From: Niel Nielsen]

I dont think that its necessary to push Joerg out, I am not even sure if
that is possible with the current regulations, I believe not.
But I have read more than once doc stating he is leaving Maemo completely,
and I read those statements as a step-down.

As for Council, eV structure.

The normal way an eV works, is that the eV board is the responsible for the
eV and everything concerning members, rules, regulations, competions et al.
There is no 'council', other that the assembly, which basically consists of
all (active) members, who can use their votes to for example reject
proposals from the eV board.
That, in other terms, means that the members are the 'council'.
However, eV board is responsible for any actions, legally - tax reporting
and all. So the eV board can of course not carry out actions from the
members that would be illegal, or against constitution of the eV.

That doesnt mean we can not have two entities, but practically, it would
make much of a difference.

/Niel

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:29 AM, juice <juice at swagman.org> wrote:

> Woody14619 kirjoitti 2014-09-22 22:40:
>
>>
>> Again, I advocate for the complete separation of the two.  Council is
>> Council
>> and does it's thing, making requests of the e.V., with no direct control
>> or
>> influence.  The GA/e.V. are separate and own/operate m.o on the
>> communities
>> behalf, once taking that responsibility from HiFo.  Simple, clean,
>> requires no
>> referendums, and keeps Council political crap out of e.V.
>>
>>
> I think this nicely sums out the situation.
>
> I have been thinking of this as we decided to have the referendum that'd
> clear out the council election problem, but maybe we have been trying to go
> at it from the wrong angle. I wanted to have the Maemo Council as a real
> ruling body, but it looks like it is not necessary as we already have Maemo
> e.V. as the successor of Hildon Foundation to take care of that.
> If council is to have the same role it had when Nokia was still the
> supreme acting agent in all things Maemo, we really need to change nothing.
>
> The only hindurance I see here is organizational complexity; we now have 2
> different entities, Maemo e.V. and Maemo Council, both having to hold
> separate elections by different electorate by their rulings.
>
> Additionally the members of the  Maemo Council may be frustrated by the
> fact that the councillors have no real power except as to advice/request
> actions of Maemo e.V.
>
>   - Juice -
>
>
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