<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Sorry I'm late on this thread -- how can I miss subscribing to maemo-community! grr.</div><div><br></div><div>Yup, a great challenge is making end-users (non-techies) participate, which is still I think the majority of IT owners and eventually the main target. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Let's take Bugzilla for example. I don't think it's proper to force them to file a bug at Bugzilla. While some would file a bug, I believe that majority will just get turned off or not technical enough to fill-up the form, not mentioning you have to create a new account just to file a bug. A better solution maybe is for someone, maybe from a developer or contributer, to say 'ok, I've reserved a bug ID for you and if you click this link, all you have to do is detail what you are experiencing' or, 'I've filed a bug for you based on your feedback. here's the link to the bug just in case you want to monitor or expound on it.'</div>
<div><br></div><div>Getting feedback is so important (I can't emphasize this enough) that we shouldn't hinder any end-user from giving them or let them rot because they weren't 'properly' reported. This will be a challenge of course but will eventually be a huge plus to the ecosystem, and to the enhancement of the 'user experience.'</div>
<div><br></div><div>On a side note, I hope Henri is about finished with integrating itT's posts and thanks stats to <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a>. </div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
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>[mailto:<a href="mailto:maemo-community-bounces@maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo-community-bounces@maemo.org</a>] On Behalf Of ext Ryan Abel<br>
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>On Sep 8, 2008, at 6:21 AM, <<a href="mailto:jussi.h.makinen@nokia.com" target="_blank">jussi.h.makinen@nokia.com</a>><br>
><<a href="mailto:jussi.h.makinen@nokia.com" target="_blank">jussi.h.makinen@nokia.com</a> > wrote:<br>
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>>> This point has been discussed fairly heavily in a number of<br>
>places (I<br>
>>> can't be bothered to dig up links at the moment, perhaps somebody<br>
>>> else would mind doing so? :D), but my own opinion is that you can't<br>
>>> really be a part of a community without being involved in it.<br>
>><br>
>> After some thinking, I fully agree. There's a difference between a<br>
>> user and a community member. But the idea or possibility that users<br>
>> are not just users, but members of a community is great and unique<br>
>> that I hope that we can tell more to whoever considers buying the<br>
>> product that runs on maemo software.<br>
>><br>
>> Therefore I hope that the council, or the community together with us<br>
>> would think ways on how to lower the barrier on getting users into<br>
>> contributing community members. At the moment the barrier of getting<br>
>> involved with <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> is higher than with ITT since benefits of<br>
>> creating an account are more concrete. I don't want to create any<br>
>> "this vs. that" situation with <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> and ITT, but just<br>
>to say that<br>
>> <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> needs to create a position also with the end-users that<br>
>> everyone understands and agrees.<br>
><br>
>Yes, getting more people actively involved in <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a><br>
>(particularly things like bugzilla and the wiki) is one of my<br>
>major long-term goals (with or without a council seat). I've<br>
>hopefully done a small part in moving that effort forward<br>
>already by encouraging many of the active itT contributors to<br>
>get involved in <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a>.<br>
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