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<p>> Erm, I *think* Tim's arguing for a fluid width, but you're not, Quim?</p>
<p>Well... Yes and no. My latest design is "fixed" to the extent that it will fit within 700px, whether the browser is windowed or full-screen... The content, though would float centered, meaning that it would be in the center of the browser window no matter how big the window is. This design, admittedly, is not made to "expand" too much, as the big buttons/columns in the main content area would not work in that regard.</p>
<p>Now, this isn't saying that the latest design couldn't be made to work more fluidly... The news section would definitely work, fixed or fluid. The two top colums (download stuff) could be made to float centered no matter how big the browser window was -- although it might look a little strange if there were a ton of negative space in and around the columns. And, the right sidebar could be made to always float on the right-most edge of the page. It _could_ be done.</p>
<p>But, as discussion has progressed during this whole process, a few things became clear: not so much content that really *needed* to be fluid, and some design elements that *had* to exist.</p>
<p>But, the process is still ongoing. And, as I always say, I'd love to see some ideas for other. ;)</p>
<p>T.</p>
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<strong>Subject: </strong>Re: maemo.org redesign<br />
<strong>From: </strong>Andrew Flegg <andrew@bleb.org><br />
<strong>To: </strong>"List for community development" <maemo-community@maemo.org><br />
<strong>Date: </strong>10/08/2008 8:46 am<br />
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com> wrote:<br />
> ext Tim wrote:<br />
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>> Last thought: Your idea does not reflect a "fluid" layout in the true<br />
>> sense, so we should make sure people keep that in mind as they design.<br />
><br />
> Long horizontal lines are more difficult to read and screen resolutions<br />
> are getting wider and wider. So yes, fixed width is a good default<br />
> unless there are good reasons for breaking it (like we are doing with<br />
> bugs.m.o and garage.m.o<br />
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Erm, I *think* Tim's arguing for a fluid width, but you're not, Quim?<br />
<br />
I *strongly* believe that a fixed width design is almost fundamentally<br />
broken (and, as tablet users we should see the problems it can cause).<br />
If someone maximises their browser window on a 1600x1050 screen, why<br />
shouldn't the design take up 75% of the space? They may have increased<br />
the minimum font size, or they may like those widths.<br />
<br />
The problem with a fixed-width design is finding the right width. Many<br />
people use 1024(x768) or 800(x600), but I like my window at about ~900<br />
pixels wide on the desktop, and *have* to maximise the tablet browser<br />
to get a usable width.<br />
<br />
We should be setting a good example: if everyone used a fluid-width<br />
design, the tablets wouldn't have quite so many problems on the web.<br />
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Cheers,<br />
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Andrew<br />
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