<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Graham Cobb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:g%2B770@cobb.uk.net">g+770@cobb.uk.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Monday 02 February 2009 20:12:29 Ryan Abel wrote:<br>
> On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Graham Cobb wrote:<br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">> > Maybe<br>
> > that is the way it should be: maybe the council **should** represent<br>
> > contributors rather than users, but we should at least get the<br>
> > opinion of the<br>
> > users on whether they care.<br>
><br>
> Dave also hit the nail on the head here, but I'll elaborate a bit.<br>
><br>
> The Council isn't in place as a consumer activism group. We're here<br>
> for the *community* and its members (i.e., contributors), which is<br>
> only a subset of all users (i.e., owners).<br>
<br>
</div>When I said "users" I didn't mean tablet users, I meant Maemo.org users, who I<br>
consider to be just as much members of the community as the contributors.<br>
Are you suggesting the "community" in my local small town only consists of<br>
the shopkeepers? There are well over a thousand (probably many more -- I<br>
got bored flicking through the pages in the user listing) people with Maemo<br>
accounts and fewer than 25 karma points. Many more than have more than 25<br>
points.<br>
<br>
All these people have visited <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> and created accounts. Why should the<br>
council only represent people who contribute to the Maemo community, not all<br>
those who are trying to use our downloads, our documentation, our<br>
community-contributed software, our forums, etc?<br>
<br>
I'm not saying that the council is doing a bad job of dealing with those<br>
people's concerns (the new site, the debmaster, all these things are helping<br>
those users) but why on earth don't they get a vote?<br>
<br>
I must admit, I completely fail to see why we do not give a vote to anyone who<br>
has a <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> account. Can someone explain the rationale?</blockquote>Because I like Starship Troopers? <br><br>
<div>Because you don't want me signing up 300 accounts and electing myself? <br><br>Because handing control to clueless people who have no stake in the outcome is asking for problems down the road.<br><br>(Two of those are serious, the other one is only tangentially related. ;)<br>
<br>Also, all developers, bughounds, and other contributors _are_ users as well, so I'm not seeing any concerns that leeches would have uniquely, so the loss is not perhaps as serious as you're thinking.<br><br>Benson<br>
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