That would be great, Carsten-- the community is well-represented by your efforts and you are a natural presenter.<br />
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> ----- Original message ----- <br />
> From: "Carsten Valdemar Munk" <cvm@cs.au.dk><br />
> To: "List for community development" <maemo-community@maemo.org><br />
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [loki@fosdem.org: FOSDEM 2010: Distribution Miniconf]<br />
> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:58:18 +0200<br />
> <br />
> <br />
> From Mer/my side, I'm thinking to propose a lightning talk (15m) and<br />
> can probably help manning a stand.<br />
> <br />
> /Carsten<br />
> <br />
> Quoting Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com>:<br />
> <br />
> > Hi,<br />
> ><br />
> > ext Jeremiah Foster wrote:<br />
> >> The following message has been popping up on the debian lists I<br />
> >> follow. I wonder if we, i.e. Maemo, are interested in taking part in<br />
> >> the distro rooms this year at FOSDEM? I know I will be there, it might<br />
> >> be cool if we did something. I know lbt wants to discuss openSUSE's<br />
> >> build system - it looks like a good opportunity to do so with openSUSE<br />
> >> themselves. Perhaps Mer wants to participate too?<br />
> ><br />
> > Thanks for the heads up. Yes, it's time to think what to do in FOSDEM 2010<br />
> ><br />
> > What is the kind of participation we want to have? Think big (but with<br />
> > your feet on the floor). There is always time to cut down.<br />
> ><br />
> > http://wiki.maemo.org/FOSDEM_2010<br />
> > http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=356121<br />
> ><br />
> > --<br />
> > Quim Gil<br />
> > open source advocate<br />
> > Maemo Devices @ Nokia<br />
> ><br />
> >><br />
> >> More details in the body of the email.<br />
> >><br />
> >> Jeremiah<br />
> >><br />
> >>> Hi all<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> If you wonder why you receive this email, it's either because you've<br />
> >>> been a contact for your respective distribution at FOSDEM in the past,<br />
> >>> or because I'm looking for contacts with distribution projects where<br />
> >>> we<br />
> >>> didn't have any in the past ;)<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> If this email is best sent to another person, please forward it<br />
> >>> accordingly.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> You probably all heard of FOSDEM before. If not, FOSDEM ==<br />
> >>> http://fosdem.org ;)<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> The next edition is 6+7 February 2010, and it's also our 10th edition.<br />
> >>> As such, we've been reflecting on the evolution of the event (in the<br />
> >>> sense that our mission and what it has become is rather a platform for<br />
> >>> FOSS projects, much more than just a conference, or at least that's<br />
> >>> what<br />
> >>> we'd like FOSDEM to become), and we are introducing a change regarding<br />
> >>> Developer Rooms for distribution projects.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> We would like to push the envelope of our mission even further by<br />
> >>> organizing something along the lines of a "distribution summit" during<br />
> >>> FOSDEM 2010 (incidentally, I had that idea long before I heard of the<br />
> >>> "distrosummit" that will be held at linuxconf.au, a few weeks before<br />
> >>> FOSDEM but hey, it's far away, and FOSDEM is the European event of the<br />
> >>> year ;D).<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> The idea is that rather than having several distributions with their<br />
> >>> own<br />
> >>> respective and individual Developer Room, we will host mixed<br />
> >>> conference<br />
> >>> rooms where talks and sessions will be organized _by topic_, with<br />
> >>> contributors from all distributions attending and participating.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> The reasoning behind it is manifold:<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * most distributions have their own events nowadays (FUDcon, debconf,<br />
> >>> openSUSE conf, EuroBSDCon, etc...), which are already used for topics<br />
> >>> and matters that are specific to each of them<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * FOSDEM is an almost unique occasion to meet and exchange with<br />
> >>> contributors of many major FOSS projects, given the large amount of<br />
> >>> visitors (~5000) and projects present during the weekend — we believe<br />
> >>> that not taking profit of that constellation is a bad use of the tool<br />
> >>> that is FOSDEM :)<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * the number of distributions requesting Developer Rooms at FOSDEM is<br />
> >>> very likely to rise in the future, given that Gentoo didn't send a<br />
> >>> request in time last edition and that Ubuntu didn't ask until now (but<br />
> >>> I'm assuming that it is likely to happen at some point in time ;)), as<br />
> >>> well as Mandriva having unfortunately been turned down by us due to<br />
> >>> lack<br />
> >>> of space (and there's really no reason to accept the usual suspects<br />
> >>> and<br />
> >>> having to say no to Mandriva, or almost any other distribution project<br />
> >>> for that matter)<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> To dive into a little more detail:<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * 3 (large) rooms will be allocated for that "distro summit"<br />
> >>> * sessions will be scheduled by topic (see below)<br />
> >>> * every project is welcome to join in :)<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Note that stands are not affected in any way and will be handled as<br />
> >>> previous editions (i.e. send us a request:<br />
> >>> http://fosdem.org/2010/call_for_stands)<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Topics are something I need your feedback and ideas on: whatever you<br />
> >>> think is appropriate as a topic that is recurring issue for<br />
> >>> distributions (governance, feature tracking, trust mechanisms,<br />
> >>> ambassadors, ...), or something where you would like to present your<br />
> >>> solutions for specific tasks to other distributions (e.g. package<br />
> >>> building, translations, bug tracking, community infrastructure, ...),<br />
> >>> especially if you're interested in feedback, ideas and collaboration<br />
> >>> from and with other projects... we'd love to hear about it :)<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Given that, when I'm switching caps, I'm myself deeply involved into a<br />
> >>> distribution project (openSUSE), I do have a few proposals in terms of<br />
> >>> topics — and please don't shoot if most examples I'm giving are<br />
> >>> related<br />
> >>> to openSUSE, it's just because it happens to be the distribution<br />
> >>> project<br />
> >>> I know best:<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * Packaging:<br />
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
> >>> - present different toolsets for handling the burden of packaging a<br />
> >>> distribution as well as additional repositories (e.g. openSUSE Build<br />
> >>> Service)<br />
> >>> - have a few packaging subsystem sessions, where the current state of<br />
> >>> RPM/yum/zypp/..., dpkg/apt, emerge, ports, etc... are presented, as<br />
> >>> well<br />
> >>> as their respective roadmaps for the future<br />
> >>> - evolve/adapt repository metadata formats ?<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * Localization:<br />
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
> >>> - how to handle collaborative translations ? (e.g. transifex)<br />
> >>> - localization of distribution documentation, project wikis, etc...<br />
> >>> - how to coordinate with upstream ?<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * Community Infrastructure:<br />
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
> >>> - FedoraCommunity, opensourced LaunchPad, Bugzilla extensions, etc...<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * Test and QA<br />
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * Governance:<br />
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
> >>> - boards, elections, technical control of the distribution, ...<br />
> >>> - ambassador programs, LoCo teams, etc...<br />
> >>> - legal issues<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> * Working with upstream:<br />
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
> >>> - have a few sessions with major upstream projects present at FOSDEM<br />
> >>> (Mozilla, GNOME, KDE, ...) on how to improve/optimize collaboration<br />
> >>> between downstream (distributions) and upstream (developers), e.g. for<br />
> >>> patches<br />
> >>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Unless somebody has some time to spare and steps up, which would be<br />
> >>> more<br />
> >>> than welcome, we will take care of handling the coordination of the<br />
> >>> session proposals, as well as the schedule.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> If you're interested in participating, please contact us ASAP at<br />
> >>> devrooms@fosdem.org<br />
> >>> The most practical option will be to subscribe to a mailing-list:<br />
> >>> http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/dist2010<br />
> >>> And we will be able to discuss details, ideas, as well as the schedule<br />
> >>> there.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> If you do want to participate, please echo the event to your<br />
> >>> respective<br />
> >>> contributor community, and poke them to subscribe to the above<br />
> >>> mentioned<br />
> >>> list and make proposals or inquiries there.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Thanks for reading so far, and hopefully we'll see you in Brussels for<br />
> >>> FOSDEM 2010 :)<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> cheers<br />
> >>> --<br />
> >>> -o) Pascal Bleser <loki@fosdem.org> http://www.fosdem.org<br />
> >>> /\\ FOSDEM 2010 :: 6 + 7 February 2010 in Brussels<br />
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