Well, Jeremiah had the only negative comments. I don't know what Maghreb is, but military dictatorship is a bit of hyperbole. Since banners weren't even invited before, and now they are (subject to some rules), the criticism seems misplaced. In any event, I've tried to utilize the constructive parts and revised the rules to be as below. They are intended to prevent the website from being overrun with ads for fart apps and such. <br>
<ul><li> Banner should be for a project with a clear and compelling purpose.<br></li><li> The purpose of project should be related to Maemo or a maemo device.
</li><li> The project should maintain an online presence at <a href="http://maemo.org/" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> or own web site.
</li><li> The project should be generally open source or open governance.</li><li>The banner should not violate any trademark or copyright. <br></li><li> The project agrees that posting a banner to support a project does not make <a href="http://maemo.org/" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> a sponsor or otherwise responsible for the project.
</li><li>A <a href="http://maemo.org/" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> member in good standing must be designated as primary contact.
</li><li> The project agrees to answer queries from Council regarding project.</li><li>All requests for banners (and objections) shall be directed to Council who shall determine whether the banner satisfies these rules and the length of time the banner will be posted.<br>
</li></ul><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Jeremiah C. Foster <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeremiah@jeremiahfoster.com">jeremiah@jeremiahfoster.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 03:17:49PM -0400, Sunny B wrote:<br>
> Council has decided to allow a limited number banners on <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> for<br>
> related projects. There is already a banner for the 2011 Coding<br>
> Competition. A banner has been prepared for the Cordia project. And<br>
> council has approved the Community SSU for a third banner, although a banner<br>
> has not yet been submitted for review. The following set of rules are<br>
> proposed to serve as guidance for those who might consider submitting a<br>
> banner to <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> in the future. Constructive comments on the rules are<br>
> requested.<br>
><br>
> - Banner must be for a project with a clear and compelling purpose.<br>
<br>
</div> How are you defining "compelling"? This seems like it will be easily misunderstood.<br></blockquote><div><br><font color="#ff0000">We are not defining "compelling". We'll leave that to the dictionary.</font> <br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
> - The purpose of project must be related to Maemo or a maemo device.<br>
<div class="im">> - The project must maintain an online presence at <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> or own web<br>
> site.<br>
> - The project must be generally open source or open governance.<br>
<br>
</div> "Generally"? Don't you mean "specifically"? What are you trying to avoid,<br>
banning an app that requires paid support?<br></blockquote><div><br><font color="#ff0000">No. Even Maemo itself is not completely and specifically open source.</font> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
> - The banner must not violate any trademark or copyright.<br>
<br>
You'll never be able to know for sure. You can only check if it has appropriate<br>
copyright attribution and assume it is correct. (Plausible deniability is what<br>
Maemo needs if there copyright claims against something you thought was okay.)<br></blockquote><div><br><font color="#ff0000">Granted, you'll not know for sure. But this is to make explicit the policy on such matters. </font> <br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im"><br>
> - The project agrees that <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> incurs no responsibility by posting<br>
> banner.<br>
<br>
</div> How on earth are you going to absolve yourselves of responsibility for<br>
posting the banner? In some European countries its been proposed that bloggers<br>
register with the government. What makes you think that the council or those<br>
in charge of <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> won't be responsible for what they post on their web site?<br></blockquote><div><br> <font color="#ff0000">Rules are amended to clarify that posting a banner does not imply responsibility <u>for the project</u>.<br>
</font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
> - A <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> member in good standing must be designated as primary<br>
<div class="im">> contact.<br>
> - The project agrees to answer queries from Council regarding project.<br>
> - Banner may be removed at any time and for any reason by Council.<br>
<br>
</div> So the council can remove anything they want, without supplying a reason,<br>
but bears no responsibility?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><font color="#ff0000">The rules don't say a reason doesn't have to be supplied. And yes Council is responsible for banner decisions. The webmasters don't want to be (and shouldn't be) in the position of deciding which banners get posted and for how long.<br>
</font> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Really?<br>
<br>
This sounds like military dictatorship in the Maghreb.<br></blockquote><div><br><font color="#ff0000">Lighten up.</font> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Jeremiah<br>
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