<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Andrew Flegg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@bleb.org">andrew@bleb.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:15, Cosimo Kroll <<a href="mailto:zehjotkah@googlemail.com">zehjotkah@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Just wait a little bit... ;)<br>
<br>
</div>I'm not sure this teasing is helpful. If you know something (like<br>
Ville inevitably does), you should either helpfully hint around the<br>
limits of what you can discuss; or be quiet about it.<br>
<br>
As Ville asks, what *kind* of things could be revealed as part of a<br>
Nokia device announcement which would affect whether <a href="http://meego.com" target="_blank">meego.com</a>,<br>
<a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a>, somewhere else or a mess between them is the place to<br>
discuss a Harmattan platform?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Andrew<br></div></blockquote></div><br>Hi all,<br><br>Thanks for the discussion. To answer the initial question, t.m.o. and maemo community lists will remain open for discussions of Harmattan, if for no other reason that <a href="http://maemo.org">maemo.org</a> is an open community and we let people discuss things as they wish here. Certainly, there are discussions which are more off-topic than Harmattan. This is not to say that Council will be passive, and might not make some changes in an attempt to keep the community vibrant in view of the challenges that we know lie ahead.<br>
<br>As to Ville's request for information considered relevant, I can answer for myself at this time, and with the advice that this topic (and others!) is to be discussed by Council at the Conference, probably some time late on Sunday: <br>
<br>1) Clarification of the SW Architecture - Is it Meego Core OS with a Nokia custom UI or UX on top? QGil has said MeeGo APIs, but now Dave Neary says some legacy Maemo APIs (in addition?).<br>2) To what extent is the Nokia custom part open source?<br>
3) MeeGo compliance<br>4) To what extent is the Harmattan custom UI or UX familiar to users of Maemo5 or Maemo 4.1?<br>5) To what extent will developers of Maemo5 and Maemo 4.1 apps be comfortable with Harmattan and find it a "natural" extension.<br>
<br>Although it was not asked, another important component to the reception of Harmattan at <a href="http://maemo.org">maemo.org</a> is, I hate to say it, Nokia's overture (or lack thereof) to <a href="http://maemo.org">maemo.org</a>. They could be cooperative or not, and that does still matter.<br>
<br>I agree with Andrew that the thing is a mess. I think that's beyond the control of <a href="http://maemo.org">maemo.org</a>. Perhaps we can try to clarify things through discussions with MeeGo people - core Meego OS goes to <a href="http://meego.com">meego.com</a> and Harmattan UI and UX are with <a href="http://maemo.org">maemo.org</a> or something more strained than that. But the division is admittedly not good - we'll have to see. I hope we get some clarity at the conference.<br>
<br>Rob<br>