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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Flegg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@bleb.org">andrew@bleb.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="im">On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 05:29, robert bauer <<a href="mailto:nybauer@gmail.com">nybauer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> The point of the proposal is that Council is not to be selected for their<br>
> programming or other technical skills<br><br></div>Isn't this a strawman, whoever said that the Council *should* be<br>selected for their "programming or other technical skills"? A council<br>member should be selected because the community feel they represent<br>
them when they do their "normal" participation; or when they've<br>previously commented on things.<br><br><font color="#ff0000">Andrew, if you look at the context of that quote from me, it is in response from a comment by Jeremiah about him focusing on software development. What I meant by my response to him is that there are more direct ways to develop software than serving on council. </font></blockquote>
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<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">The proposal of a TSG model, without looking at the details, is what<br>(exactly) would you be managing; and how would that be different to<br>
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<div><font color="#ff0000">This is not proposing, strictly speaking, a TSG model. It is a meritocratic model at the project level, although TSG may be the most well known example of such a model. Of course, there are no TSGs in maemo today and project management varies from good to almost none at all. It is my hope that projects will think more about their governance and management, and be reassured that if they have a good project, such as CSSU IMO, that Council will support their independent decision making and the community will benefit because Council can instead focus on funding, infrastructure, resourcing of the websites & services on <a href="http://maemo.org">maemo.org</a>. If they want to have a TSG, that's fine. If they want to organize some other way (so long as it is open), that's fine too. But let's try to improve the sustainability of maemo projects. How would it be different than today? I guess project promotion is a carrot encouraging projects to have good procedures. Then hopefully, council won't have to step in as much or get complaints that it is difficult to pick up a project.</font></div>
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<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">It's not clear to me (or others, I suspect) what you're planning on<br>changing the governance *of*.<br>
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<div><font color="#ff0000">Personally, I don't think it changes the governance much. That was Jeremiah's concern, not mine.</font></div>
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<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br>Thanks in advance,<br><br>Andrew<br><font color="#888888"><br>--<br>Andrew Flegg -- mailto:<a href="mailto:andrew@bleb.org">andrew@bleb.org</a> | <a href="http://www.bleb.org/" target="_blank">http://www.bleb.org/</a><br>
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