While this could be discussed in the tester ml I'd prefer to keep this discussion here since IMO it needs wider attention.<div><br></div><div>By looking at the QA queue [0] the oldest packages are promoted to testing a year ago so the problems isn't exactly a new one. It needs to be resolved anyway. First thing obviously is to get rid of the 6 pages long queue... I propose making a test round (by 2+ people) for _all_ the packages there promoting what can be promoted and then cleaning the older packages not fit for promotion from testing. Since there's no automated system we need help from Niels(?). So how about we provide a list of packages to promote/demote to him? This will take a bit of effort but it needs to be done and cannot be done by a single person.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm in. who else? Might be easiest to communicate this if we setup a IRC channel. #maemo-testing or something?<div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="http://maemo.org/packages/repository/qa/fremantle_extras-testing/">http://maemo.org/packages/repository/qa/fremantle_extras-testing/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>-Timo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">3. huhtikuuta 2012 15.37 robert bauer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nybauer@gmail.com">nybauer@gmail.com</a>></span> kirjoitti:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Andre Klapper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andre_klapper@gmx.net" target="_blank">andre_klapper@gmx.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Rob,<br>
<div><br>
On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 13:55 -0400, robert bauer wrote:<br>
> There is a thread on the testing squad ML<br>
<br>
</div><a href="https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/testingsquad-list/2012-March/thread.html" target="_blank">https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/testingsquad-list/2012-March/thread.html</a><br>
<div><br>
> and also a "supertesters" thread on the forum.<br>
<br>
</div><a href="http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82374" target="_blank">http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82374</a><br>
<div><br>
> Please also contact ivgalvez if you can offer help or advice.<br>
<br>
</div>You foreshadowed some issues in the quote below, I asked you to<br>
elaborate on them. I won't read through the threads that I just had to<br>
find myself, sorry - instead I expected you to summarize the issues, as<br>
you initially came up with that topic here.<br>
<br>
In general it seems like there is a communication issue. It's depressing<br>
to see such problems only made half-public by the council now, just<br>
before an election.<br>
<br>
My two cents,<br>
<font color="#888888">andre<br>
</font><div><div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div>Sorry andre, I do a lot of things and can't search for you. I did point you in the right direction though. The topic came up in response to a question from Quim, not really raised by me. The testing ML is fully public (not half-public), and the topic was discussed on the forum and on a mailing list. There is no communication issue among those who have been involved.<br>
<br>Rob <br><br><br> </div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
<br>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Andre Klapper <<a href="mailto:andre_klapper@gmx.net" target="_blank">andre_klapper@gmx.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 12:52 -0400, robert bauer wrote:<br>
> > There are several reasons - the last reason for many of the<br>
> developers<br>
> > is that there are projects and software being developed<br>
> which are<br>
> > being hindered by the lack of cooperation we are getting<br>
> from<br>
> > Nokia/Nemein. For example, we have a long list of fremantle<br>
> packages<br>
> > to be promoted and the blocker is Nokia/Nemein. Extras<br>
> downloads does<br>
> > us little good if packages can't get into extras. The<br>
> problem is<br>
> > serious - we can't even get replies to our emails.<br>
><br>
> Could you elaborate on this, if possible?<br>
><br>
> andre<br>
><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div><br>
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