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<p>On nie 15 kwi 2012 16:21:38 CEST, Andrew Flegg <<a href="mailto:andrew@bleb.org">andrew@bleb.org</a>> wrote:
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<br>> On 15 April 2012 15:03, robert bauer <<a href="mailto:nybauer@gmail.com">nybauer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
<br>> > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Quim Gil <<a href="mailto:quim.gil@nokia.com">quim.gil@nokia.com</a>> wrote:
<br>> > >
<br>> > > There is not much to discuss about the licenses that make Maemo since
<br>> > > Nokia has no intention to touch that now.
<br>> >
<br>> > Not surprising but disappointing nonetheless.
<br>>
<br>> There seem to be three distinct things being discussed, and I'm not
<br>> sure everyone is on the same page (this is an observation, and it
<br>> could be that *I've* got entirely the wrong end of the stick):
<br>>
<br>>  1) Create a self-governing, non-profit legal entity for maemo.org. It
<br>> is  unclear (to me), what this would accomplish.
<br>>
<br>>  2) Relicense Maemo under a "Qt style licence". This would _appear_ to
<br>> be  asking Nokia to open up source code they've said they haven't got
<br>> the  staff or motivation to do.
<br>>
<br>>  3) Get a permanent licence grant for maemo.org to ship Nokia binaries
<br>>  (e.g. flasher, firmware) and use them in the build process (SDKs in
<br>>  autobuilder and COBS). This would have practical advantage and
<br>>  requires formalising something permanently which is already
<br>> happening.
<br>>
<br>> > > Whatever it is, I believe we can progress better moving this to a TMO
<br>> > > discussion instead of IRC.
<br>> >
<br>> > Many people don't think the forum is a good place to get things done.
<br>> > I tend to agree.
<br>>
<br>> I would suggest that an IRC meeting is useful after initial
<br>> brainstorming/scene setting so that any specifics can be discussed.
<br>> However, to get people roughly aligned would be better done via the
<br>> mailing lists (the quoting and threading opportunties are better than
<br>> TMO for this, I think, but as long as there's a core conversation in a
<br>> single place, that's fine).
<br>>
<br>> HTH,
<br>>
<br>> Andrew
<br>>
<br>> --
<br>> Andrew Flegg -- <a href="mailto:andrew@bleb.org">mailto:andrew@bleb.org</a> | <a href="http://www.bleb.org/">http://www.bleb.org/</a>
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<br>+1 to option 3, at least AFAIU. Option 1 is totally different thing, that doesn't seem suitable right now, and may be or may not be suitable in future (and most likely, couldn't be limited to Maemo only).
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<br>So, from my side, it's now all about option 3.
<br>
<br>/Estel.</p>
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