It's beginning to look like there won't be enough candidates for maemo council. In that case, the council election gets extended a month. Mandating council as part of the nonprofit governance may then become a moot issue. Note that council or other similar body can still be put in place at the nonprofit later on.<br>
<br>We should move past this. The real issue is the number of bodies willing to volunteer and the skills they can bring (which btw those w/ skills other than software dev are needed as well).<br><br>Rob <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:43 AM, <a href="mailto:twilight312@gmail.com">twilight312@gmail.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:twilight312@gmail.com" target="_blank">twilight312@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p></p><div class="im">On czw 27 wrz 2012 12:34:53 CEST, Lucas Maneos <<a href="mailto:maemo@subs.maneos.org" target="_blank">maemo@subs.maneos.org</a>> wrote:
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<br>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 09:42:44AM +0200, <a href="mailto:twilight312@gmail.com" target="_blank">twilight312@gmail.com</a> wrote:
<br>> > Personally, I see lack of candidates for Maemo Council as obvious
<br>> > thing - after all, we're going to have Board of Directors, which, for
<br>> > all intents and purposes, is Council with elevated permissions
<br>> > (powers).
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<br>> It shouldn't be that at all. The board's duty is to run the
<br>> organisation, obtain and manage funding, manage the <a href="http://maemo.org" target="_blank">maemo.org</a> handover,
<br>> make agreements for hosting and other services etc. Even if they want
<br>> to, they probably won't have much time to deal with day-to-day community
<br>> things.
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<br>> > That part is OK, and I'm not criticizing it. What I'm sceptical about,
<br>> > is keeping Council at all - as separate, strange, powerless
<br>> > "something".
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<br>> It was always powerless ;-) The Council's mission is to "represent the
<br>> Maemo community's best interests, and to act as a community conduit for
<br>> Nokia-generated information"[1]. Just s/Nokia/Hildon Foundation/ when
<br>> Nokia walks away.
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<br>> L.
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<br>> [1] <a href="http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council" target="_blank">http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council</a>
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<br></div>Sure, that's they theory. Yet, in practice, we had ~240 people voting during last election, and probably, something like ~100 this time.
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<br>In such situation, do You really think, that we need 5 person body to represent Community interest to Board of Directors?
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<br>Well, considering, how Hildon Foundation is created, it's quite natural, that BoD is representing Community (Hildon's Foundation Community), and there is no need for middle-man, unless we want to create "positions" just for the sake of it. It's the thing, that count for 0 candidates for Council, in my opinion. After all, we have candidates for BoD (only two as for now, but still).
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<br>BTW, I'm aware that Council was "powerless" always - again, in theory. Practice - including handover of infrastructure, that is currently ongoing, and maintained by Council - is quite different thing. And, to make things clear - as by "powerless", I mean influence on Maemo, at all - not some "powergames", etc. It's just that current "powers" (aka representing Community) goes naturaly and seamlesly into BoD.
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<br>/Estel<p></p>
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