[maemo-developers] [maemo-developers] So you need more documentation?

[From: Karoliina Salminen]

kimmo.virtanen wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> I was able to test real N770 at debconf (thanks Kate and Katariina :) ).

It was a pleasure to show the device :). Besides of that my name is 
Karoliina by the way :).

> Anyway there isn't in net really any information how much actual end 
> user version devices differs from Nokias internal stuff in hackable 
> point of view.

If you want just pure hacking, you could do with the maemo rootimage. 
You was going to use it for some
automation, so it is for that purpose fully hackable by reflashing the 
device. All you need to reflash the device.

> So are end users/3rd party developers who are buying their devices 
> from stores able to login as root in their device, update its inner 
> software or compile new kernel etc?

You need to reflash the device with the development rootimage for that.
The development rootimage is downloadable from the maemo.org. There is a 
limitation
in that however, it can not contain license incompatible proprietary 
software of course because it is freely
available to anyone and for any device.

> Or is it in some kindergarden mode 

By default it is with certain limitations for the non-developer end 
users, pls see above.

> which prevents user from breaking device or more advanced people from 
> modding it?
>
> Though 770 is not maemo, it is just first device for using sdk, but in 
> maemo webpages there is mostly info for making user-mode apps so if 
> it's planned that platform is wide open then it would be nice that in 
> documentation there would be some info about deeper modification also 
> , or if sdk is just for user apps not then least some comment about it.

The maemo can be as complete as you make it, currently the maemo is not 
as complete
as the Nokia version. However, all you need to do to make it equal or 
better is to start the implementation part :).
You can compile anything in the scratchbox environment and hack 
anything. You just can not
do all that for the Nokia version - there are some limitations in that.

>
> So if here is somebody from Nokia who could answer this one.. ?

I am (still) on summer vacation, so answering from private e-mail.

Best Regards,
Karoliina


>
> -- Kimmo
>
>
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I created a page in the wiki to collect documentation that you feel is
>> currently missing. So instead of banging your head to the wall because
>> there's nothing but a big bunch of undocumented features you should head
>> to the wiki and write down your concerns. That way we could get a
>> better idea what is really needed rather than us guessing what might be
>> useful.
>>
>> The page is at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/DocumentationWanted
>>
>> I added UI guidelines as a skeleton example as it was mentioned earlier
>> on this list, but you'll probably want to elaborate it.
>>
>>
>>
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