[maemo-developers] [maemo-developers] So you need more documentation?

[From: Devesh.Kothari at nokia.com]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: maemo-developers-bounces at maemo.org
> [mailto:maemo-developers-bounces at maemo.org]On Behalf Of ext Karoliina
> Salminen
> Sent: 18 July, 2005 00:36
> To: kimmo.virtanen
> Cc: maemo-developers at maemo.org
> Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] So you need more documentation?
> 
> 
> kimmo.virtanen wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was able to test real N770 at debconf (thanks Kate and 
> Katariina :) ).
> 
> It was a pleasure to show the device :). Besides of that my name is 
> Karoliina by the way :).
> 
> > Anyway there isn't in net really any information how much 
> actual end 
> > user version devices differs from Nokias internal stuff in hackable 
> > point of view.
> 
> If you want just pure hacking, you could do with the maemo rootimage. 
> You was going to use it for some
> automation, so it is for that purpose fully hackable by 
> reflashing the 
> device. All you need to reflash the device.
> 
> > So are end users/3rd party developers who are buying their devices 
> > from stores able to login as root in their device, update its inner 
> > software or compile new kernel etc?
> 
> You need to reflash the device with the development rootimage 
> for that.
> The development rootimage is downloadable from the maemo.org. 
> There is a 
> limitation
> in that however, it can not contain license incompatible proprietary 
> software of course because it is freely
> available to anyone and for any device.

the development rootimage is not yet part of maemo.org and this is something
we working on. There is also some working going on Open Embedded integration.
http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de/maemo-oe.txt

br,
devesh

> 
> > Or is it in some kindergarden mode 
> 
> By default it is with certain limitations for the non-developer end 
> users, pls see above.
> 
> > which prevents user from breaking device or more advanced 
> people from 
> > modding it?
> >
> > Though 770 is not maemo, it is just first device for using 
> sdk, but in 
> > maemo webpages there is mostly info for making user-mode apps so if 
> > it's planned that platform is wide open then it would be 
> nice that in 
> > documentation there would be some info about deeper 
> modification also 
> > , or if sdk is just for user apps not then least some 
> comment about it.
> 
> The maemo can be as complete as you make it, currently the 
> maemo is not 
> as complete
> as the Nokia version. However, all you need to do to make it equal or 
> better is to start the implementation part :).
> You can compile anything in the scratchbox environment and hack 
> anything. You just can not
> do all that for the Nokia version - there are some 
> limitations in that.
> 
> >
> > So if here is somebody from Nokia who could answer this one.. ?
> 
> I am (still) on summer vacation, so answering from private e-mail.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Karoliina
> 
> 
> >
> > -- Kimmo
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I created a page in the wiki to collect documentation that 
> you feel is
> >> currently missing. So instead of banging your head to the 
> wall because
> >> there's nothing but a big bunch of undocumented features 
> you should head
> >> to the wiki and write down your concerns. That way we could get a
> >> better idea what is really needed rather than us guessing 
> what might be
> >> useful.
> >>
> >> The page is at http://maemo.org/maemowiki/DocumentationWanted
> >>
> >> I added UI guidelines as a skeleton example as it was 
> mentioned earlier
> >> on this list, but you'll probably want to elaborate it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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