[maemo-developers] [maemo-developers] Nokia developer contact?

[From: Catalin Climov]

Oh man, you've got a lot of anger. Makes me wonder, do you shoot your 
neighbours on sight and beat the crap out of your highschool colleagues when 
their ideas don't match your own ?

Regards,
Catalin.

On Mon 25 Jul 2005 23:36, Koen Kooi wrote:
> <disclaimer: this is my opinion, and I am not employed by nokia, movial,
> kernel concepts or any other company.>
>
> Yes, I know all about the QT/e (and the propaganda coupled with it), but
> the 770 (device) and maemo (X11/GTK platform) use X, so there is no way
> you can 'look reasonable within the existing framework' if you want to
> use QT/e painting directly to the framebuffer. To make it abundantly
> clear: the 770 is a *device* which you can do with what you want, but
> maemo is a platform that relies on X and to a lesser extent on GTK. The
> previous QT (be it X11 or /e) discussion ended with the note people
> should stop trolling about QT/e and it's suppossedly superiority and
> start working on making QT work with hildon and osso. Maemo uses X and
> GTK, if that offends you or doesn't fit in to your current development
> platform, don't bother this list. Maemo uses X, deal with it. All these
> 'Yes, but qt/e is better' threads start to annoy and aren't
> constructive. Maemo uses X, curse all you want, but that's the truth.
> Don't like it? Produce something better and tell us the results, just
> don't start this pre-emptive whining about QT/e.
> I guess I should now better and stop feeding the trolls (haha, trolltech
> toolkits and trolls), but I think it's time to post a big note to
> maemo.org and nokia.com stating: "Not interested in QT/e, piss off".
> QT is well designed and allows you to build qtopia with X support, no
> problem there. Maemo is a platform, not a device, so pimping opie (a
> nice platform, which is going to switch to QT4/x11, btw) or QT/e annoys
> the crap out of me and judging from the reactions on IRC, a lot of other
> people. Maemo uses X, deal with it. Feel free to install what you want
> on your *device*, but stop bothering us with FUD about X being
> inappriate on embedded devices.
> To make it very clear: QT is nice, a hildonized QT would be a neat thing
> to have, hildonized KDE apps aren't evil, but maemo is primarely a
> X11/GTK platform. Whining about QT/e in the platform (not even the
> device!) list is just childish and promotes prejudices about 'the other
> side of the fence'.
> Either be constructive and start working on proper integration with
> hildon and osso, or continue your effort on a more appropriate
> mailinglist (qt-interest or something). This is a maemo list, not a
> nokia 770 list. Maemo uses X and is a platform.
> I appreciate all the work TT and TK do on qtopia, and their apps are
> very nice, nothing against that, but don't go bullying on maemo for
> being different. I personally carry a deep resentment against QT/e (not
> QT, not qtopia), but that doesn't stop me from working and having fun
> with the Opie people, it just puts me in a foul mood when I read stuff
> like this. Choice is good, so don't stuff qt/e down our throats.
>
> still with regards,
>
> Koen Kooi
>
> > regards,
> >
> > Koen
> >
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