[maemo-developers] [maemo-developers] Re: system architecture

From: Daniel Monteiro junkybox2002 at yahoo.com.br
Date: Fri Jun 3 22:20:03 EEST 2005
about the boot time, my desktop debian does it quite
fast indeed (counting from the GRUB loading the linux
kernel to the login screen). if the real device is
going to have this boot time, its reasonable. its
almost the same time my N-Gage takes to boot up. 

--- Koen Kooi <koen at handhelds.org> escreveu:

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> Jakob Praher wrote:
> > hi David,
> > 
> > thanks for your response.
> > 
> > David.Weinehall at nokia.com wrote:
> > 
> >>On tor, 2005-06-02 at 14:29 +0200, ext Jakob
> Praher wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>hi all,
> >>
> >>You should probably read the publicly available
> information about both
> >>maemo and Nokia 770.
> >>
> > 
> > ok. afaik: the public information mostly deals
> with the maemo
> > application sdk. this is why i posted here. i
> don't want to just raise
> > the noise level :-)
> > 
> > i for myself am a debian user for over 6 years
> now. - i am working
> > exclusively on debian for all my desktop stuff. so
> i have some
> > experiences in that. IMHO a general
> purpose/vanilla debian distro will
> > not be perfect for that job. I would concenctrate
> on a streamlined
> > version, perhaps using an asynchronous init.d
> (like initng) for
> > instance. this implies changing the debs, since
> the debs use the general
> > purpose init.d right now. perhaps one could build
> an autmated
> > translation from the existing scripts files
> towards a faster process.
> > 
> > this is just on thing I would look at.
> > another would be a faster hotplug infrastructure.
> > i think the shell script approach should only be
> used for third party
> > hardware - it is costly to probe all that.
> > it would also be interesting to add some udev
> specs for mobile devices
> > (like memory sticks and stuff like that)
> > 
> > as I said just some random thoughts. anyways I'm
> looking forward to
> > buying one!
> 
> My experience with a debian based distro on my ipaqs
> showed me that I
> down reboot very often, and it boots reasonably fast
> (faster as my
> desktop). But still it would be very, very great to
> have it booting up
> almost instantanious. Should those attemps fail, a
> cool animations does
> wonders too :)
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > 
> >>>-> Are you using ramdisk or are you
> reading/writing directly to the
> >>>flash disk?
> >>
> >>To flash.
> > 
> > I've heard that flashs only support a limited
> numer of writes over time.
> > Perhaps that isn't the case anymore.
> About 10k - 100k depending on the technology used.
> Wince has been
> storing settings in ram for ages and that is VERY
> annoying when the
> battery runs out. The filesystem used (jffs2) has
> builtin wear leveling
> to spread out the writes over the complete
> partition, and I'm pretty
> sure /tmp and /var are on a ramdisk. With all this
> the internal flash
> should last quite long, most likely longer as a
> standard flashcard in a
> mp3 player/photocamera.
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> Koen
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