[maemo-developers] [maemo-developers] Re: Java on the 770

[From: Clemens Eisserer]

Furthermore I guess we would not really need Jazelle to archieve good
performance. As far as I know Sun will release its ARM  JIT also under
GPL which should be enough to build a high-performance CDC JVM for the
770.

lg Clemens

2006/11/21, Luis Montes <monteslu at cox.net>:
> ARM has a feedback form on their site. I just confirmed with them that
> they have no interest in giving out specifications to their Jazelle
> technology.
> Their only suggestion was that Nokia do something to get a jazelle JVM
> on the 770.
>
> Sun is not the problem here.
>
> Luis
>
>
> Roberto Resoli wrote:
> > 2006/11/16, Jesper Zuschlag <jesper at zuschlag.dk>:
> >> Actually, from what I have been told by several ARM representatives
> >> its the other way around.
> >
> > It's funny, because Sun is insisting; from:
> > http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6857451192.html
> >
> > Eric Chu, senior director for the mobile and embedded market at Sun,
> > says:
> > "We won't be able to put everything out there [under the GPL]. For
> > example, in our commercial product, we have integration with Jazelle.
> > Obviously, we cannot put that code into open source. So in the open
> > source version, we will take out some of the pieces that have third
> > party IP, that we don't have the right to open source. Whereas with
> > the commercial product, in some cases, we already have some of those
> > commercial relationships in place that allow us to include those
> > pieces."
> >
> >> Something in the Jazelle architecture is
> >> covered by one or more Sun patents, which means that ARM cannot
> >> disclose the architectural details to 3rd parties that isn't Sun-
> >> licensees.
> >> I believe that in view of the recent open-sourcing of Java, Sun and
> >> ARM should sit together and solve this issue so that we can use the
> >> full potential of our devices. I find this whole situation ridiculously.
> >>
> >> /Jesper
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