[maemo-developers] No more 770 bug activity?
From: Acadia Secure Networks acadiasecurenets at aol.comDate: Tue Apr 3 23:17:52 EEST 2007
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David, your "pain" is that of the proverbial pioneer in the old West (US) that ends up with a few arrows in his/her back. Similar in concept to the "pain" the people are feeling who paid 2X for HDTV's a year ago that were of less resolution/quality/size than the ones available today for 1/2x the price. As I see it, with respect to product support, Nokia is finding its way in this product category, Internet Tablet Computers, which are positioned somewhere between a smart mobile phone and a full fledged server but priced more like a smart mobile phone. It could be worse. As far as I know, for the Windows Mobile OS, there are no patch releases, and, it seems, at most one feature pack upgrade per major release (e.g. 2003=>2003 SE, 5.0=>5.0+feature pack whatever, etc.). Not only that, because of the vice-grip that the hand-set supply chain (manufacturer=>distributor=>mobile service provider) has on the product, it may not even be possible for a given end user to get a Windows Mobile feature pack, because someone in that chain is not supporting it on the specific handset/mobile service provider combo in question. In comparison, what Nokia has done is a step forward in my opinion, although Microsoft, of course is no paragon of perfection when it comes to product support. I do think Nokia could mitigate this hw obsolescence problem for some customers, by having a very generous trade-in price to go from the 770 to the N800. In fact, from a marketing perspective this could make a lot of sense for a new product category like the Internet Tablet. That way Nokia would not have to leave its pioneering customers for dead on the "great plains" of product innovation. ! Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks dave.neuer at pobox.com wrote: > On 4/3/07, quim.gil at nokia.com <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >Is there any chance to have a community maintained release? If >> >I remember correctly some drivers are missing to get there, >> >any chance to get the open sourced? >> >> >From a Nokia 770 customer point of view, any solution around this >> device >> needs to come sooner than later, since devices get old quite fast >> nowadays. > > Absolutely right. > >> From a Nokia Corporation perspective open sourcing components >> might be a slow process even if all the parties involved have a clear >> and common wish opening a specific source code. If we are talking about >> hardware drivers, the process might be *really* slow. Therefore, there >> are little chances that the solution for 770 customers comes from Nokia >> opensourcing components, really. > > Understood. > >> >> The current hacker edition looks like the best candidate to become a >> more continued solution. Some people here have got a deep look at it. >> What do you think? > > No, that's totally bogus: a binary-only distro that's supported by a > community which doesn't have access to the source? Give me a break. > > Instead, how about Nokia get every bit of source used to build the > last IT 2006 release which it has permission (both internal and > external) to release in source form together in _one_ _repository_ and > then let the community maintain that. > > It would end up being a sort of fork, and we'd need some help from > Nokia to understand what proprietary components we'd need to replace > (even if it's just in the form of hints like Igor's about power > management that I posted a while ago) though obviously real > documentation would be much better. Additionally, keeping it > compatible with N800 OS releases would be challenging to say the least > (maybe Nokia employees could help w/ that little bit, like backporting > fixes to bugs in the public source). > > Anything else, from both a end-user and a non-Nokia developer > perspective, IMO, is just crap. > > I mean come on, there are now users of $450 one-and-a-half year old > devices out there (which didn't work well at all for 1/3rd of that > time even for basic stuff) that are now being told they also won't get > "official" fixes for KNOWN BUGS, ever. > > Give me a break. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers at maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
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