[maemo-developers] hacker edition status and future?

[From: Joni Valtanen]

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Joni Valtanen wrote:

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>
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
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>> ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
>>> Joni Valtanen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Next version is coming as rootfs. There is no kernel updates.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, this means hacking 2.6.16 kernel and backporting something makes sense.
>>> Alternatively time could be spent in making dual kernel booting situation
>>> working (IT2006 vs 2007 with newer kernel) so this answer helps to
>>> prioritize things, thanks :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Same components are used as in n800 version, but the kernel is older
>>>> 2.6.16. There is lot of work if n800 version of the kernel is used.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes but I hope you are not completely ditching n800 kernel for future
>>> hacker edition releases (if any).
>>>
>>> If you are not planning this it would be nice to say so and also publish
>>> binary stuff needed to use newer kernels. First HE version had initfs that
>>> worked with newer kernels but it is not availabe anymore at
>>> http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/os2007_hacker_edition.php The IT2006 one
>>> crashes in dsme early on boot with 2.6.18 which makes things really hard
>>> since the unstoppable (retu?) watchdog reboots device and also reading
>>> flags (like root device) from config partition with cal-tool is impossible
>>> without dsme running.
>>>
>>> Frantisek
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>> Hi Frantisek,
>>
>> The approach has been again to use the OS2006 initfs for the 770,
>> including the old kernel.
>> Indeed in the previous round we first tried to use a newer kernel
>> but that turned out to cause many problems - Joni has the details.
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> Problems with 2.6.18 - if I remember right:
>
> - dsp system was different
>   - problems with sound and related programs
>   - the biggest problem
> - some user space programs needed more patching than with older
>   kernel.
> - problems with initfs: bme & cal-tool didn't work properly
> - more problems that didn't come out
>   - time to get everything work
>
> But yes. 2.6.18 is possible to get work. but there is needed some
> dsp+kernel guru to do this. Using 2.6.26 is just faster way to get
> goal.

Sorry. I meant kernel 2.6.16.

> There is old archive about for more information:
> http://test.maemo.org/maemowiki/Os2007HackerEditionArchives
>
>> We're close to releasing a new version of the hacker edition, at
>> that point let's talk about this again. With that newer version
>> working (userspace updated to the latest release for the N800
>> as much as possible) we can reconsider the use of the old initfs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carlos
>>
>>
>
> - Joni
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