[maemo-developers] [maemo-developers] Maemo ARMEL server

From: Detlef Schmicker d.schmicker at physik.de
Date: Tue Feb 13 20:19:56 EET 2007
Hi Andrew,

I came from the other side to the problem. A lot of problems one have
with unported debian application is, that one is missing keyboard
support and right mouse click and maybe the size of the screen is to

With vncviewer one can overcome all this problems, as one can use nearly
all debian applications as can be tried connecting to a standard debian

One possibility is, that the Xvnc -> vncviewer setup can extend your
MUD-builder to using graphical applications. At least non GTK
applications which need a keyboard can not be used without this as far
as I understand it.

I thought about a different type of setup: Something like set up a guest
debian e. g. on the internal flash which uses an Xvnc X-server. 
This guest debian would be independend from maemo and can be used for
all applications, which you need but which are not ported. But I am not
sure, how to set up.

I hope I understood MUD correctly. Please let me know, if I missed your
way to use (non gtk) graphical applications with keyboard.


Am Dienstag, den 13.02.2007, 16:39 +0000 schrieb Andrew Flegg:
> On 2/13/07, Detlef Schmicker <d.schmicker at physik.de> wrote:
> >
> > I am quite interested in a big armel archive. I did a test setup with
> > Xvnc and vncviewer (both running on the N800), which allows to run
> > crosscompiled, but not ported debian applications, even if they are
> > graphic applications and need a keyboard.
> That's the idea behind MUD-Builder:
>     http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/
> > If we could set up an automatic maemo (from unchanged debian source)
> > armel repository, this would be realy great, as it would bring thousends
> > of applications onto N800 (Possibly N770 is to restricted with the
> > amound of RAM, and I did not try Xvnc on maemo 2.1).
> Unfortunately, as you found with dependencies, it doesn't make sense
> to recompile the whole of Debian - that'd include the base packages
> like libc6, the kernel, X etc. which you still want from Maemo.
> You've also got to start patching debian/control so that the build
> dependencies match what you've got available in Maemo. The end result
> is that it needs some careful thought and consideration, rather than
> just building all of Debian.
> Which is what we created MUD for :-)
> Let me know if you've got any questions.
> Cheers,
> Andrew

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