[maemo-developers] Eclipse & the IDEs

[From: Kate Alhola]

ext Arto Karppinen wrote:
> Kate Alhola wrote:
>   
>> There just happens to be many that prefer eclipse and
>> when there is large commercial developers using it, it
>> needs to be supported. It just happens to be a tool chosen
>> by Nokia for Symbian development.
>>   
>>     
> So which one is it? The tool preferred by developers or the tool chosen 
> by Nokia. This is actually the whole point of this thread in the end. Do 
> developers use Eclipse because they want to, or because they have to?
>
> If developers use Eclipse because they want to, then your point about 
> Eclipse & Maemo is valid.
>
> But if developers use Eclipse because they have to, then your whole 
> point about "Many mobile developers want to use Eclipse everywhere" is 
> rubbish.
>
> And i must say that i strongly feel that you mix market penetration with 
> user satisfaction. I had to use Carbide / Eclipse because Nokia pushed 
> it. Id did NOT use it because i wanted it, because lets face it, there 
> isnt that many other IDEs around for Nokia phones. Code Warrior comes to 
> mind, but thats more expensive than Carbide.
>
> So i think this is more about Nokia policy, than about doing what 
> developers like.
>   
I think that this discussion thread is starting to repeat itself.
There is no plan in Nokia to force maemo developers to use eclipse
if they don't like it. So, if user is more satisfied by using
Emacs/Vi/Anjuta/Kate/Kdevelop/Eclipse whatever, i think that he or she
is still free to use it and there is no plan to limit this choice at all.

Only thing that we are doing is just to add one supported choice more.
So our policy is support free choice and not to push anything.

I hope that you understand that supporting free choice also means
that we don't try push developers already using eclipse to use
vi/emacs/etc. That kind of pushing would be really sacrificating
their user experience.

> It not that im specially against Eclipse & Maemo. Its just that i dont 
> believe that Eclipse is such a loved IDE as you seem to assume it is.
>
>   
I can't argue about any other users love at all. Eclipse has really
many good things in it and one important is that it is cross platform
tool. It makes migrating from one environment to other easier than
learning completely new tools.


Kate


That once again used her free choice and wrote maemo code with
emacs and C++ .