[maemo-developers] Ideas for Diablo and Elephanta: OpenEmbedded

From: Sebastian Mancke asteban at gmx.de
Date: Tue Sep 25 11:10:15 EEST 2007

Ok, I only saw the replacement approach in mamona and didn't know the
the long term goal to align with maemo, Rodrigo told. This makes sense
to me.

quim.gil at nokia.com schrieb:
> Mamona will be more useful and successful if it serves properly maemo
> developers like Sebastian. I'm sure the INdT guys have this in mind.  :)
> 
> In terms of roadmapping for us 
> 
> maemo + OE = mamona
> 
> INdT is doing pretty well with the development and I don't see a need
> for us now to take part directly. Nor have we currently plans of
> supporting officially mamona. 
> 
> In the meantime we have an official SDK based on Scratchbox, and we
> prefer to concentrate energies in improving it. We are relatively happy
> about it: it works and we use it ourselves. There are some things we
> dislike and as for today we think that we can address them through
> something like Scratchbox2 + System QEMU + Raemo + IDE plugins.
> 
> "One development for many targets" is an important principle for us, not
> always easy to apply. Usage of common components, versions and developer
> tools across hardware vendors would help. We try to do the steps to
> align as much as possible with the Linux desktop and the diverse mobile
> variants based on GNOME/GTK+.
> 
> Quim
> 
>> No. When I understand mamona right, it is an approach to 
>> create a completely free distribution for the N800 (as 
>> replacement of maemo).
>> The package selection seems to be based on Angstroem and it 
>> uses an upstream gcc4.1 with binutils2.17.50.0.5, at the moment [0].
>>
>> While mamona is a very nice thing, it does not help to produce 
>> packages for maemo. For this we would need at least a binary 
>> compatible gnu toolchain in OE (mainly gcc, binutils, glibc). 
>> Of course, it would be nice to have the hildon libraries 
>> buildable there, too. Whereby the later one should be easy, I 
>> can't estimate the effort for the toolchain.
> 


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