[maemo-developers] Are we, as community, ready [for linuxtag]?

[From: nick loeve]

Hello,

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Kees Jongenburger
<kees.jongenburger at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Quim Gil <quim.gil at nokia.com> wrote:
>  >  ext Kees Jongenburger wrote:
>  >  > What should we do as community?
>  >  > What can we do as community around linuxtag?

I personally think one of the most important things we could do at
Linuxtag is to continue to build the dialog between Nokia and the
development community. Asking questions, talking about future plans
for development infrastructure (build env, toolchain, repositories
etc)

I understand that Nokia cannot always talk about all the specifics,
but face to face time with developers can sometime be more effective
than 'official' communication. I mean being able to talk to developer
of a project can install confidence in me that it is going somewhere
and also provides motivation, as you see that developers, either from
Nokia or not, are just 'normal' people, with 'normal' constraints
placed upon them.

That goes for non Nokia-led projects also...

Anyway, im looking forward to it!

>  >
>  >  Thanks for expanding these questions. I see LinuxTag just as a formal
>  >  checkpoint. Nokia is willing to support more community gatherings and in
>  >  general further deeper levels of community activities. But of course
>  >  this only makes sense if you want this.
>  Hello, I do understand the "formal checkpoint". I don't have much time today
>  but as I understand there is a deadline to create the agenda today.
>  Here is how my proposal would go
>
>  Talk about python: This is currently a unique selling point of the tablets.
>  get people to understand how easy it has become to create apps for the tablet.
>  I think this can help the community as  a whole(I and might just learn
>  something)
>
>
>  --more for the plafform things--
>  Talk about the roadmap face2face, perhaps in a get together /
>  brainstorm. of course
>  it is nokia who decides at the end but lets try to get some sort of
>  understanding.
>
>  It is good if  open-source project give the developers some way to
>  "get money doing open-source"
>  for me it was simply learning and it gave me the opportunity to get a
>  jobs in the embedded world.
>  but what other possibilities are there?
>  A) customizing the tablets (this is where I think mamona like aproach
>  might be a good idea
>  B) Getting the hildon software running on more platforms
>
>  Talk about "Choices for the future *sbox .v.s sbox 2" gcc upgrade
>  etc., compile farms etc
>
>  Explain again about the apt-get dist-upgrade plans :p
>
>
>  >
>  >  One option for Nokia would be just to announce a Great Plan with a Good
>  >  Budget, present it and execute it. Others do this and some of them in
>  >  fact do it pretty well. But if you ask me I would prefer to have the
>  >  maemo community organically involved already in the definition of the
>  >  Great Plan.
>  Indeed
>
>
>  >  Involving the community in hardware design or commercial software
>  >  products is hard - especially hard for open source community standards.
>  >  But an increasing amount of maemo activity is not originated inside
>  >  Nokia and there is no reason why the community couldn't manage that
>  >  formally.
>  I am very happy about current usability of the devices (specialy
>  compared to some other projects).
>  This did require some short roads to be taken so I understand
>
>
>
>  >  - What about stressing that a huge percentage of the mechanics are not
>  >  controlled by Nokia either, but by a wide range of open source suppliers
>  >  you can interact with - openly and without messing with the Nokia agenda
>  >  at all?
>  This would be a very nice topic! "We did not do it, it was you and you and you"
>
>  greetings
>
>
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Nick Loeve