[maemo-developers] Busybox version

[From: Wei Zhou]

Thanks for your detailed explain. It's nice to hear the news about the
busybox upgrade in Fremantle. Although, normal user might not interested
in cmdline, but it did for developers:) lol

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eero Tamminen [mailto:eero.tamminen at nokia.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:30 PM
> To: Wei Zhou
> Cc: ext Deepak Kr. Sharma, Noida; maemo-developers at maemo.org
> Subject: Re: Busybox version
> 
> Hi,
> 
> ext Wei Zhou wrote:
> > Little out of topic, busybox in diablo image is  1.6.1, 
> while the latest
> > one is 1.11.x, does Nokia plan to upgrade this? AYK, there 
> are many bugs
> > on Bugzilla shows the old busybox did not support some 
> features (like,
> > `ldd', `sort -k', etc), but the latest one does. 
> 
> If you need these urgently, instead of "ldd", you can use:
> 	/lib/ld-2.5.so --list /path-to/dynamic-elf-binary
> 
> (Ldd script is just convenience wrapper around ld, it 
> converts relative
> paths to absolute and gives the binaries & libs to the dynamic linker
> one at the time.)
> 
> And instead of "sort -k", you might try re-arranging the fields first
> with trivial awk one-liner.
> 
> 
> > compare with the size
> > 
> > busybox 1.6.1,      223.4k
> > busybox 1.11.x,    763.4k
> 
> I think the features and especially the size depends more 
> from features
> enabled in busybox configuration that the busybox version.  (bugs in
> these features, these are more specific to busybox version. :-))
> 
Agree, the features supprted should have a careful consideration.

> 
> > I think it's not a big problem in N810 about the size(256M/8G).
> 
> The 256MB internal flash (where all the packages will be installed) is
> half  full and with JFFS2 file system there should be some free space
> for it to work well (to more full it is, the more it slows down and
> more RAM it uses).
> 
Yuh, is that possible to add an option for `Advanced user' and `Normal
user',  like the R&D mode, maybe some advanced features/utils can be put
under the external storage, and mount for using, Relax, ^^

> Basically features that aren't needed by normal users (who don't use
> command line) nor needed by the installed packages, are left out of
> Busybox.
> 
> 
> Updating to new Busybox version "always" breaks things that 
> need then to
> be  fixed, so it's not going to be updated for maemo 4.x (Chinook /
> Diablo).  It will be updated in the next major release, Fremantle.
> 
> 
> 	- Eero
>