[maemo-developers] WLAN Horrible Roaming Performance (N800, OS2008), Software or Hardware Problem ?
From: Benno Senoner benno.senoner at googlemail.comDate: Sat Feb 2 18:06:11 EET 2008
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Hi all, I am trying to solve a big WLAN roaming problem which the N800 experiences and I think it is of interest to many as good WLAN responsiveness for the N800(and successors) is the key for smooth user experience, so please chime in with your experiences, ideas how to solve those problems etc. Some background: As WLAN access points we use 2 Buffalo Technology WHR-HP-AG108 http://www.buffalo-technology.com/products/wireless/wireless-ag-mimo-performance/wireless-ag-mimo-performance-broadband-router-and-access-point-with-high-gain-antenna/ using only the 802.11g radio (802.11a is disabled) We are trying to use the N800 with OS2008 for a data entry application which runs on a linux server. Basically in order to keep things simple we run the maemo vncclient on the N800 and the linux server simply provides a 800x480 VNC screen where the app runs in. It works fine and the speed is more than adequate BUT since the area the data entry operators work in cannot be covered by a WLAN single access point we set up 2 APs on different frequences (for example 1 and 11). The problem we have is that even though within the working area you always get a strong signal from at least 1 AP the N800 sometimes behaves very erratic. For example when moving from AP1 to AP2 It seems like the N800 tried to stay associated as long as possible with AP1 even though AP2 is much stronger and AP1 can barely exchange any data at all with the N800 as it is at the border of the coverage area. VNC will become very slow and impossible to work with. Sometimes it takes 1-2 minutes for the nokia to realize that it should roam, totally unacceptable for smooth operation. I disable wlan power saving (in the maemo control panel) in order to avoid problems when the n800 wakes up from standy, keep in mind the operators move alot on the area and often they will not touch the n800 for several minutes. I even ping the IPs of the n800 from the linux server in order to make sure that they don't sleep. Sometimes it even happens that the operator when roaming and wanting to use the N800 the VNC session got stuck and nothing works, so he has to power cycle it. VNC uses a single TCP socket to exchange data between server and client. The question is could it be that the socket remains stuck due to the roaming and is not able to recover ? I could try to add an external watchdog which keeps a socket open with the server and in case that this happens restart the vnc client, but I am not sure if this will work. Keep in mind that using a Windows laptop and the same vnc client code in the same area where the N800 are employed works perfectly, so the network coverage, bandwidth and server speed is excellent. I tried to install wireless-tools and play with both iwconfig sens (sensivity) parameter http://maemo.org/development/documentation/man_pages/iwconfig.html and with iwpriv parameters: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/man_pages/iwpriv.html testing the follwing commands: set_scanthres (scan threshold) and set_scanint (scan interval) iwconfig sens seems to have no effect at all iwpriv set_scanthres as well does not seem to produce any improvement (tried with values ranging from -100 to 0) set_scanint seems to make some difference but it does not solve the problem. the default value is 60000 which means as far as I understand that the wlan card in the N800 tries to scan for new APs each 60 secs. I tried to lower this value to 25000 , it sometimes leads to faster roaming but since the scanning takes about 1 sec it is very disturbing that during that time you cannot transmit any data (because the radio tries all frequencies from 1 to 11) and the VNC GUI thus freezes. Is it possible to specify which frequencies the N800 should scan when roaming ? i think this is a very important feature as it can speed up roaming speed considerably. There are only 3 non overlapping frequencies anyway (1,6,11) and usually 2 frequencies are enough so if the n800 had a setting scanfrequencies=1,11 we could scan much more frequently without disrupting the data flow for a long time. if the seleciton of scan frequencies is not implemented in maemo yet please do it ASAP as it make it more smooth to use of the N800 in larger WLANs. Any other wlan software parameters that I perhaps missed which could improve the situation. So any idea how to make sure that the N800 roams smoothly ? What are your experiences ? I can change the access point model without problem if you tell me what access points provide good roaming performance in conjunction with the N800. Any access points brands,models which gave you good experience while roaming ? years ago I used a HP IPAQ and regular 802.11g access points (DI serie) and the roaming was excellent, so I can hardly believe that Nokia did not do its homework and did not think about this problem. After all the N800 is an internet tablet and good and smooth WLAN connectivity is the key selling point for smooth internet experience. Imagine if an N800 user roams through an university campus and wants to listen web radio or stream a video from the web. If the N800 behaves like in my case (which is a simple network with 2 APs) the radio and the vide owill constantly freeze leaving the user pissed off. The same happens if the user wants to use some VOIP client like skype, SIP clients etc. I know that for pure web page viewing roaming speed is not that important but the N800 is a multimedia tablet and smooth multimedia performance is a must. I hope the N800 hardware is not flawed and that a fix can be found, thanks everyone in advance for your advices and help ! I think this kind of roaming performance tuning is important to many others too and I hope that they can profit from the discussion that will come out too. best regards, Benno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/attachments/20080202/33615f6f/attachment.htm
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