[maemo-developers] "and I don't think the decision makers need more input from the Maemo community"

[From: Lorn Potter]

Darius Jack wrote:
> Nokia is lossing millions, is loosing markets

oh really? You are only half correct.

"Nokia reported second quarter earnings today, which saw its net income 
fall 61 percent to 1.1 billion euros ($1.74 billion), from 2.83 billion 
euros ($4.49 billion), compared to a year ago despite its market share 
reaches 40% from 38%."

http://mobchina.blogspot.com/2008/07/nokias-profits-drop-by-61.html

So Nokia increased it market share and is still loosing sales. couldn't 
have anything to do with recession at all or high fuel prices, either hey?


> and Maemo, Maemo community was really a great chance for Nokia
> to make something special.

They did. Besides, Nokia and Maemo doesn't make the community. The 
community makes itself.

> Today chances are lost.
> It's too late.

oh. such doom and gloom...

> Just read Bloomberg and market analysis and stock reports.
> Chances for sucess and to be No.1 with Maemo success has gone forever
> to Samsung, Apple and emerging Google cell phones.

really funny. I thought the n770, n800 and n810 has no gsm. If you know 
differently, please point me to the correct dev node and I will whack 
Qtopia Phone on there so you can use it as a gsm phone (oh wait. Qtopia 
Phone already runs on n810, silly me, what was I thinking. All thats 
needed is a phonevendor plugin). so no, it isn't competing with apple 
and 'emerging' android phones. as well, any android phone is just 
vaporware. Do you smell that? They let the blue smoke out of their 
reference boards...


> 
> We should play fair.
> Maemo community was a great chance for a great victory by Nokia.
> Unsupported, with no leadership, no challenges set
> ended in frustration and half-finished products
> like low quality gps navigation, no-cell-phone Maemo.

It was never meant as a mobile phone, otherwise there would be a gms 
chip on it.
Besides, anyone can write a high quality gps navigation application if 
they want. Why leave it up to Nokia? The product is open enough to make 
any application possible. and now with qt4-maemo, it has never been easier.

> 
> At the same time Samsung, Apple, Google made very fast progress
> with emerging technologies, multitouch products, high-quality integrated navigation.

good for them. They are mobile phones...

> 
> I can't blame you for a defeat, but frankly speaking, you showed no interest to make Maemo developers the Champions - world-leaders in emerging technologies and products, giving handicap to Apple and Samsung
> to make much faster progress.

Perhaps you haven't heard about maemo-qt? Try writing an app for your 
iPhone that you can simply recompile to run on linux, mac and windows...

> 
> Lost chance by Nokia is not my personal opinion.

yes. it is.

> Lost chance is market analysis published by Bloomberg.

I think growing in market share from 38% to 40% is doing well. But this 
is a differing market to what the tablets are competing in, so your 
point is moot.

> 
> just what Bloomberg says:

[snip some mumbojumbo personal opinions]


> The only chance for success is to have comm unity of developers really integrated with main development strategies

again, see maemo-qt4. it is the future I think...

> and my suggestion to set up Think-Tank
> made some months ago
> was the right direction.

ok. so where is your thinktank and what documents have they produced?

> 
> Wish you success anyway.
> (and pls don't delete my post and don't take it personally)

I wont take it personally, after all, it is just your opinion.