[maemo-developers] VS: Re: Pushing optified Python libs

From: Timo Härkönen timop.harkonen at gmail.com
Date: Fri Dec 18 22:43:45 EET 2009
Hi

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> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Niels Breet <niels at maemo.org> wrote:
> > Developers have python available in SDK and also know how to handle either
> > red-pill or apt-get.
>
> So, If I understand correctly, developers (even newcomers to the Maemo
> world) should have extras-devel enabled on their devices for
> development? Otherwise they would not have access to e.g. bindings
> that are not used yet (and thus did not get promoted to extras).
>
> I did this on a N900 and I saw many updates appearing for applications
> not related to my development work. Most probably the new versions
> were coming from extras-devel. Wouldn't that be confusing to new N900
> developers?

Yes. I usually have extras-devel disabled to avoid unwanted updates. I enable it only when I need to install something from there. Somekind of option to ignore updates from selected repositories would be usefull. Is something like this currently possible?


>
> > Until we have the repository/library maintainer track sorted out, I
> > propose to follow these steps:
> >
> > - If you are not listed as maintainer for an existing library and still
> > want to have it updated, contact the maintainer. If the maintainer is not
> > available or doesn't respond, mail to maemo-developers list.
> > *** Please don't update a library maintained by anybody else without
> > consent or public discussion***
> > - The maintainer/author uploads new version, checks if applications using
> > the app still work correctly.
> > - Ping me or mail -developers to push it through manually to testing. Here
> > we can all do a final test to see if nothing breaks.
>
> Sounds reasonable IMHO. Is that also the case if some package needs to
> be "demoted" from extras-testing?
>
> > I hope to have an interface for maintainers available in the beginning of
> > the new year.
>
> Good to hear that! Will it be not restricted just to user/* applications?
>
> > This doesn't solve the problem that the Application manager doesn't update
> > libraries on their own though. That problem should be a separate
> > discussion.
>
> Agreed. One thing I noticed is that removing some application using
> Application Manager does not remove its unused dependencies (e.g. like
> "apt-get autoremove" does). So the device tends to get filled up with
> unused dependencies, with no user-friendly way of removing them. Did
> anyone else notice this?


BR

-Timo
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