[maemo-developers] lost in extras-testing as a donkey in the mist

[From: Attila Csipa]

Foreword: I'm an extras-testing newbie, I went through 
http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing and hoped to push a simple script 
(called 'mirror') to regular users (=extras). I did extras(-devel) stuff for 
Diablo, but had a few things that oops-ed me here, so I'd like some 
clarifications so I can leave my current 'I are baboon' state.

a) what are the relations of extras-testing to nokia-applications 
repositories ? My script depends on gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra which is 
there, and lcuk pointed out that it is listed to be missing dependencies 
(http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applications_explicit_armel/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-extra/0.10.15-git180-0maemo8+0m5/ ). 
To add my confusion there are even packages there that have 'missing 
dependencies' that depend purely on libc6 ( 
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applications_explicit_armel/libspeex1/1.2~rc1-1maemo7+0m5/ ). 
So who is depending on what here and who is supposed to provide/promote 
what ?

b) if there were failed dependencies, how did my upload/promotion to 
extras-testing go through ? Or does that 'missing' mean something else ? 

c) there is no 'add application' link on https://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/ 
and I can't select Maemo5 as the OS if try to add it from 'another' page that 
has that link. Are apps going to be added automatically by the promotion 
process, or do I need to apply/do something to get that option ? 

d) Is there a coordinated way of getting testers for karma to promote to 
extras ? I made an announcement thread on talk, but wasn't quite clear about 
whether the once-planned tester group exists, do they get notified 
automatically, or do I need to do something extra to request evaluation, the 
wiki didn't quite make that clear for me. 

I'm sorry if this stuff has been addressed before, if it was, it slipped under 
my radar and my google skills failed me. Hints, pointers welcome.



Regards,
Attila