[maemo-developers] How to use extras-testing correctly?

[From: Aniello Del Sorbo]

No wait...

The line is a bit blurry.

My proposal was based on the assumption that developers are working on
their application for the good of the whole Maemo community.
They have a moral duty of approving only good quality software and
Testing is a good tool to achieve that.

I don't want developers to approve their applications just because it
was in Testing for ages and few people voted it or because it was
badly voted or because of a bug that's not in his application.

If he has the last word, fine, just push in him this moral duty.
If he hasn't control, then who decides the application future in those
cases and how/when?

Aniello

2009/9/24  <tero.kojo at nokia.com>:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: maemo-developers-bounces at maemo.org
>> [mailto:maemo-developers-bounces at maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext
>> Henrik Hedberg
>> Sent: 24 September, 2009 13:07
>> Cc: maemo-developers at maemo.org
>> Subject: Re: How to use extras-testing correctly?
>>
>> Niels Breet wrote:
>> > The developer/maintainer is always the one who decides on when to
>> > publish the app.
>>
>>     So no quarantine, no need to gather karma points? Please,
>> update the wiki [1], if that will be the case.
>
> No, the question was who makes the promotion to extras. The developer does in the end.
>
>>     Aniello was saying that developer should have an option
>> to promote his application directly into extras regardless of
>> the extras-testing QA. I second to that.
>
> I find that understandable and scary. You guys want the control on your software, naturally.
>
> But giving a potentially bad experience to a first time oss user? No. The people who will get N900s aren't all reading this list, and some of them are even a bit clueless. I know that the people who are raising this issue provide a class software, I use it. But not everything in for instance Diablo extras is good and functional.
>
> Even worse, direct promotion leaves a gaping hole to upload stuff that crashes devices. Which is then pulled out later?
> I know that the people looking after the maemo.org repositories are fast, but even they go on vacations occasionally.
>
>>     In addition, Aniello had nice ideas about the processes
>> and tools how to find applications (and developers) who had
>> probably misused their power to promote application directly
>> into extras. There is no hurry to implement those, although
>> they could make sense in the long run.
>
> As a feedback channel yes. It's a good idea, but needs an implementation, which we could talk about in Amsterdam (a lot of the early contributors will be there, I don't mean to discriminate) live and on a thread here.
>
> Tero
>
>>     BR,
>>
>>     Henrik
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing#Promotion_.2F_Demotion
>>
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