[maemo-developers] How to destroy your community

[From: Aldon Hynes]

Yet perhaps this is some of the problem.  It seems like the community of
people working with devices running Maemo might be better served if it was
more distinct.  As is noted on the maemo.org Terms of Use page, the site is
hosted as a 'public service' by Nokia Corporation.

IMHO, what would make much more sense would be if
1) An independent open source community gets established, as a seperate not
for profit legal entity.
2) Nokia contributes a few things to that community, including the Maemo
trademark, so that the community could call itself Maemo, and the amount of
money that Nokia spends on hosting the site and other community related
activities.
3) The community, itself, could then run Maemo, including the websites, etc.

My two cents,
Aldon

-----Original Message-----
From: maemo-developers-bounces at maemo.org
[mailto:maemo-developers-bounces at maemo.org]On Behalf Of Jeremiah Foster
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:23 PM
To: Ryan Abel
Cc: maemo-developers mailing-list
Subject: Re: How to destroy your community



On Jan 20, 2010, at 23:21, Ryan Abel wrote:

> On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:
>
>> I've seen frequent mentions of how distinct maemo.org is from Nokia. But
the reality seems that nothing at Maemo can really happen without Nokia's
tacit approval. Is there anyone that has server access that isn't paid
(directly or indirectly) by Nokia? Can we start getting the servers admin'd
by community admins instead of depending upon Nokia? A first step would be
to document (on the *outside/public*) wiki the current server arrangement.
Another good step would be to get DNS off their servers. Until that happens,
the whole "maemo is distinct from Nokia" is just a façade.
>
> Maemo is a trademark owned by Nokia and used for their software platform
and their products. You're confusing Maemo and maemo.org (maemo.org being
the community-owned website). In doing so, you're confusing the discussion
and making it much more difficult to participate and arrive at a useful
conclusion. "Maemo" and "maemo.org" are not equivalent interchangeable
terms.

Nor are they as distinct as you would imply.

Jeremiah
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