[maemo-developers] Deleting Project PyGTKEditor from Garage

[From: Valerio Valerio]

Hi,


2010/3/24 Benoît HERVIER <khertan at khertan.net>

> Why are you saying that i m trying to divide the Maemo Community ?
>
> So Maemo is as closed as Apple iThings  Store ?
>

That's a joke right ?

We can t provide apps without the approbation of the community ?
>

Yes, you can, as you know.

>
> Uploading things to extras is a pain ... rules changes ... stupid
> votes ... bug in the interfaces that noone take care... fixing a bug
> for a package in extras could takes several weeks due to the QA
> Testing process ...
>

Afaik, all your packages are following to the QA rules, the votes can be
changed, if you feel that someone made a bad judgment you can show them
that, what's the problem ?

Please don't tell me again that you spend more time packaging that writing
code, that can't be true, the packaging only need to be done once.

>
> I cannot say to user to set extras-devel repository ... there is too
> much package that can brick n900 device ... HAM ignore apps that are
> in other repository if they are already in extras !!! So what ?
>
> I m a hobbist developers, i m doing it for free ... and today it s
> take more time to trying to make packages available in extras than
> creating new apps and implementing new feature !!! Why ... you should
> try to found user to test your apps, answer to wrong vote, wait bugs
> to be fixed in the web interface, and more !
>
> So creating my own repository is the best compromise ... Today i ve
> already delete my garage account as x-fade is now sure that i ll not
> publish anything more on extras repository ... what you want ? if you
> are not happy with that do not use my repository ... BUT STOP WHINNING
>

I'll not discuss your decision of creation your own repository, and I can
understand that, but don't you think that deleting all the maemo records
about you(losing karma, future DDP, sponsorship for events) is a very
childish attitude ? Here's the harm ?

There's a lot of people supporting you inside the community, is because they
like you, I also appreciate very much all your contributions, but I can't
understand your attitudes.

!
>
> But i got so many complain about creating my repository that now you
> win ... you know what ? Today i m writing code to create packaged
> python apps for android, and i ll probably stop all my maemo
> development ! I know that this n900 will made many damage to the
> community ... but i was optimist ... i was thinking more users, better
> for the plateforms ... failed
>

Again very childish, sounds like: Hey I'll switch to Android and ruin Maemo.
:)

We're all adults here(except qwerty :P), let's behave that way. We tried to
make a good QA process is not the best one in the world but it keeps
improving more and more, the process is totally OPEN for improvements, and
we're here to help, also I don't see anyone else with such big
complains.(yes the process is slow)

Best luck for you if you leave us.

Best regards,

-- 
Valério Valério

http://www.valeriovalerio.org


>
> Yes there is discussions, talk, brainstorm ... and other discussions,
> emails on the mailing list but ZERO actions taken. This was my first
> experience in an true OSS community ... but probably the last.
>
> FELICITATIONS you loose an other dev ! Your so closed mind IS DIVIDING
> the community !
>
> 2010/3/24, Frank Banul <frank.banul at gmail.com>:
> > One person setting up their own repository is hardly dividing the
> > Maemo community, IMHO.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Michael Cronenworth <mike at cchtml.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Benoît HERVIER wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Once the package will be removed from extras, extras-testing, and
> >>> extras-devel you will be able to install the new version from my own
> >>> repository.
> >>
> >> Why are you attempting to divide the Maemo community?
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>
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