[maemo-developers] Package promoting

[From: Polyvertex]

Also, I would like to add that when people are unhappy, they tend to
complain (like me today :) ) but when they are happy, they have
nothing to say. This is the way it is and the promoting process do not
take this into account.

Cheers,
Jean-Charles


On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 14:09, Polyvertex <polyvertex at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:38, Attila Csipa <maemo at csipa.in.rs> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Polyvertex <polyvertex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Indeed, I own a stuck package :)
>>
>>
>> I am, in a weird way, happy that people are now complaining about packages
>> being stuck for 15 days - as bad as it sounds, there were times where most
>> of the packages spent months in testing without hopes of ever getting
>> promoted. Now, only to get the average closer 10 and all will be dandy !
>>
>> On a side note - I checked out you package, it already has 3 tester votes,
>> so (unless somebody finds a blocker) it will be unlocked for promotion in
>> about 5 days even if nobody else votes on it (but if they do, you get
>> unlocked as soon as you reach 10 votes).
>
> I am not complaining because my testing package is stuck since 2 weeks
> and if you look at the package events list, you will see that the
> *only* version which has been promoted to extras has indeed spent more
> than 2 months in testing. But I do complain about the too high
> constraint level of the promoting process for the developers *and* the
> users.
>
> I think the maintainer should always have the ability to promote the
> package to extras by himself and take the risk of being under fire
> from users if he promote a very bad/bugged release and did not took
> enough time to resolve issues. This may also be added to the Karma
> system if this is not already done.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Is there an exit backdoor somewhere ? :)
>>>
>>
>> A secret weapon is in the making - KISStester, which would allow easier
>> feedback for users, and it also acts as a REMINDER for people who are using
>> software that is in dire need of testing (the problem is that people
>> *download* things from testing but forget/can't be bothered to come BACK to
>> vote on it).
>
> Well... As both of us said : most of the time, users don't vote. This
> is why the promoting process is way too constraining : it does not
> take users behavior into account at all...
>
> Cheers,
> Jean-Charles
>