[maemo-developers] Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]

Mon Aug 20 17:44:09 EEST 2012

The "meeting" basically had 2 discussion points:

#1 adoption of a kernel into cssu
#2 upgrade of the toolchain used to build cssu

As for the kernel, and the libc select/pselect bug that could be fixed 
with an updated kernel we still haven't come to a clear decision.
freemangordon suggested to take the power kernel and strip it of 
unstable patches, which leads to the problem of how to review the 
patches kernel power contains.
Another solution would be to take the current nokia provided kernel 
source and backport only necessary patches to keep a system that is as 
stable as possible. For this job nobody stepped forward though.
I personally would prefer the second solution since it should be the 
users choice if they want everything (or even a subset) of the 
features/changes the power kernel brings to their device, whilst the 
select/pselect bug has to be fixed regardless if the kernel is as stock 
as it can get or if it's the power kernel.
Here we reached no real decision, but if a maintainer for a patched 
stock kernel shows up it will be integrated quickly.

The upgraded toolchain is if anything something for future.
Cssu-thumb already uses an upgraded toolchain because otherwise it 
wouldn't work, so it could provide a benchmark of the stability of a 
chosen toolchain in the future, but there was no decision as to when or 
if we change the toolchain that is is used for -testing and -stable.

Am 18.08.2012 10:38, schrieb ?????? ????????:
> afaik merlin1991 is on holiday till monday, with "flaky inet" :).
>
>
>
> -------- ?????????? ????? --------
> ??: Iván Gálvez Junquera
> ???????: Fwd: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
> ??: maemo-developers at maemo.org
> ????????? ??: ?????, 2012, ?????? 17 19:16:10 EEST
>
>
> Hi
>
> I'm resending this message as I have noticed that it was rejected by 
> maemo-developers mailing list as I wasn't properly subscribed.
>
> I'd also like to comment that it would be useful to have scheduled 
> meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers 
> and contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't 
> increase the overhead of the project.
>
> Merlin1991,
>
> Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via 
> mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the 
> decisions adopted?
>
> I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of 
> argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can 
> clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.
>
> Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.
>
> Regards
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Iván Gálvez Junquera* <ivgalvez at gmail.com 
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=ivgalvez at gmail.com>>
> Date: 2012/8/11
> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
> To: maemo-developers at maemo.org 
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=maemo-developers at maemo.org>, 
> council at maemo.org <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=council at maemo.org>
> Cc: ?????? ? <freemangordon at abv.bg 
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=freemangordon at abv.bg>>, Christian 
> Ratzenhofer <christian_ratzenhofer at yahoo.de 
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=christian_ratzenhofer at yahoo.de>>
>
>
> Merlin1991,
>
> Being the maintainer of CSSU, could you please provide, maybe via 
> mailing list, the minutes of the meeting with a brief summary of the 
> decisions adopted?
>
> I know that logs are available, but there has been a lot of 
> argumentation after the meeting, and It is appreciated if you can 
> clarify which direction that is going to be adopted, specially about KP.
>
> Regards and thanks for all the time you are investing on this.
>
> 2012/8/2 Marcin Mielniczuk <marmistrz at linux.pl 
> <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=marmistrz at linux.pl>>
>
>     I resend this as I sent it from wrong mail address :P
>
>     -- 
>     Sent from my Nokia N900
>     Marcin
>
>
>     ---------- Mensaje reenviado ----------
>     From: Marcin Mielniczuk <marmistrzmar at gmail.com
>     <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=marmistrzmar at gmail.com>>
>     To: "?????? ?" <freemangordon at abv.bg
>     <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=freemangordon at abv.bg>>,
>     maemo-developers at maemo.org
>     <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=maemo-developers at maemo.org>,
>     council at maemo.org <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=council at maemo.org>
>     Cc:
>     Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:50:10 +0200
>     Subject: Re: [Fw: CSSU meeting ]
>     Hi,
>
>     I have some debug info about eglibc I compiled but causes many
>     problems.
>
>     I'm attaching gdb logs from Calendar and Angry Birds Classic for
>     MeeGo, the 2nd one run thru MeeCoLay. Calendar from libc6 2.10
>     only, the AB problem exist with both version of glibc. hth.
>
>     I've got some more info about problems with libc6 from "gcc 4.6
>     and fremantle thread", I'll send it later.
>
>     I'm not at home and have a limited internet access, so I won't be
>     able to attend.
>     -- 
>     Sent from my Nokia N900
>     Marcin
>
>     On Thu Aug  2 2012 10:38:47 AM CEST, ?????? ????????
>     <freemangordon at abv.bg
>     <../servlet/sendmess?ac=sab&to=freemangordon at abv.bg>> wrote:
>
>     >  Hi all,
>     >
>     > Following the attached mail, I would like to propose a meeting
>     of CSSU
>     > team and everyone who is involved/interested. The meeting to be
>     help on
>     > #maemo-ssu IRC channel on freenode.net <http://freenode.net> ,
>     today, 02.08.2012 18:00 UTC.
>     >
>     > Topics to be discussed:
>     >
>     > 1. Inclusion of kernel replacement in CSSU (community kernel) and
>     > possibilities of a kernel upgrade to a newer version. 2. Upgrade of
>     > toolchain used to build CSSU stuff. 3. glibc/kernel pselect()
>     fix and
>     > evaluation/planning of glibc upgrade to a newer version.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     >
>     > Ivaylo Dimitrov (freemangordon)
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>     <Attachment>  CSSU meeting
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Iván Gálvez Junquera
>
>
>
> -- 
> Iván Gálvez Junquera
>
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