Sorry, but Noop ;)<br>Completely wrong as before.<br>Students can join opened projects only.<br>If you don't have opened project, how could you expect to have students to join your project.<br>It works exactly as Google pointed out.<br>First project idea than students.<br>Initiative is up to project managers, mentoring organizations tgo open projects not students.<br>Please read Google Summer of Code FAQ and Terms.<br><br>(you said: Sure, it might require a bit more initiative for the students to <br>find or think of the projects, but GSoC is about finding students with <br>the initiative to get involved and hopefully stay involved - exactly <br>what we're looking for.)<br>Really ?<br><br>I fully understand what you mean.<br>Too much money goes to students on stipends and pocket money to mentoring organization only ($4,500 vs. $500) and all code goes to Google.<br>Ok, but you still get free workers or workers for free to work with you, under your supervision.<br>Really
fantastic idea in our hard times on Wall Street to win free promotion by Google.<br><br>In my life span I was involved, joined, supervised more than 100 projects, from very small one-man to projects in global education, distance learning, incorporation of virtual corporation, remote managment of VC, rm of VC staff,<br><br>And project management model provided by Google is not bad.<br>You have a listing of open projects/ideas and have millions of students to join or not to join, making their.own free decision.<br><br>20 years ago Usenet / Bietnet was the only place for startups of new projects.<br>Nowadays public/private forums, as a meeting place, provide such opportunity.<br><br>But there is good project without money and more money provided better project completed.<br>Students in general have no money but have good brains and some free time.<br><br>Unfortunately, there is a conflicting idea, especially in EU, to have students to join projects, co-financed by the
Commission of the EU and let them still call such projects non-business open-source ones.<br><br>So there is a large number of hot projects, co-financed and sponsored by EU, business, corporations and that part of a project of special importance, involving<br>a lot of work hours, efforts and money in initial stages of design, think-tank,<br>goes listed as open source project to attract free workers, working for free.<br><br>Today, such strategy of hidden financing of business projects by free workers is called Groups.<br>Groups are created on the Internet and run some projects as open source.<br>If project is successful, it goes to business and generates profits.<br>If unsaccessfull evolves in another project code name.<br><br>Sometimes developed in parallel to a business project, gives business oriented ppl insight into hot issues for free and none Non-Disclosure Clause is in force.<br><br>So closing, Google's idea of Summer Code is not bad.<br>Google is a known as a
business entity, corporation, public company<br>and give students real opportunity to participate in hundreds of projects.<br><br>Please name me another corporation, another company or a school, university, showing such initiative and interest in providing space for development of so many open projects.<br><br>I am not for or against Google but it really makes sense to open such platforms for student project.<br>MIT is ok, unfortunately R&D projects are closed as financed by third parties.<br><br>So I really see no problem for Maemo to join Google Summer of Code every year.<br>All you need is to file an application form.<br><br><br>Darius<br><br><br><br><br><br>And<br><br>.<br>.<br><br> <br><br><b><i>Ryan Pavlik <abiryan@ryand.net></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Darius Jack wrote:<br>> Noop.<br>> Completely wrong.<br>> Just read more about Google Summer
of Code from<br>> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/<br>> "<br>> All participating mentoring organizations for 2008 have provided <br>> additional information for their would-be students, including a list <br>> of sample project ideas.<br>> "<br>> Being listed as a mentoring organization has nothing to do with past <br>> interest of students in activities of a mentoring organization in-spe,<br>> as you firstly get listed as a mentoring organization and than<br>> attract potential students.<br>> $4,500 stipend offered by Google is great chance for any student and <br>> much more than N810 apiece.<br>><br>> What Google said:<br>> "<br>> If you find you have a great idea to improve one of the projects you <br>> see listed, why not start working on it now?<br>> "<br>> You are right, Google Summer of Code attracts more mentors than students<br>> "<br>> /Google Summer of Code/ 2008 is on! Over the past three years, the
<br>> program has brought together over 1500 students and 2000 mentors from <br>> 90 countries worldwide, all for the love of code. We look forward to <br>> welcoming more new contributors and projects this year.<br>> "<br>> But there is a chance to chan ge things for the better and discuss <br>> that issue with Google.<br>> On the other hand Google with Google Maps application is first-class <br>> and first hand competitor to Nokia Tablet as a navigation device.<br>><br>> Anyway, attracting students to Maemo is attracting new customers to <br>> buy more N810s, so, in our hard times on Wall Street, Nokia not Maemo, <br>> should be interested in promotion of its great Nokia Tablet in any <br>> form of promotion, provided for free.<br>><br>> Lost chance is lost chance<br>> and any stipend granted by Google to a prospective student is lost <br>> forever.<br>><br>> Darius<br>I wouldn't go quite that far - there are a lot
of downstream projects, <br>and a mighty good idea for some of them would be to produce or improve a <br>Maemo port. As a platform, Maemo has a lot to gain indirectly from <br>improvements to other projects. (Don't forget the upstream projects, <br>too!) Sure, it might require a bit more initiative for the students to <br>find or think of the projects, but GSoC is about finding students with <br>the initiative to get involved and hopefully stay involved - exactly <br>what we're looking for.<br><br>-- <br>Ryan Pavlik<br>www.cleardefinition.com<br><br>#282 + (442) - [X]<br>A programmer started to cuss<br>Because getting to sleep was a fuss<br>As he lay there in bed<br>Looping 'round in his head<br>was: while(!asleep()) sheep++;<br><br></blockquote><br><p> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com