<table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' background='none' style='font-family:arial;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);width:100%;'><tr><td valign='top' style='font: inherit;'>Hi Quim,<br><br>you said<br>"<br>In addition to this, Nokia expects to make a sustainable/profitable<br>business around the maemo platform and compatible devices.<br>"<br>Exactly, so there is no other way to solve that problem not hurting developers<br>but to enter into<br>the Global Alliance on Free Software/ Open Source Free Software <br>New Global Open Source Alliance<br>by corporations, developers, IP protection international organizations, patent offices (USPTO, European Patent Office ...), Free Software Foundation, Microsoft, TomTom, Apple and Linux giants as well as others<br>to discuss nd find the solution <br>to have both corporate's and developer's business protected<br>and have developer's IPs protected
anyway.<br><br>Nokia's corporate business is not exactly the business of developers working for free<br>to let Nokia make business and generate profit.<br><br>Maemo is to much about poetry, philosophy and business strategies.<br><br>I remember, when I asked for the first time, who stayed for maemo.org<br>Nobody was able to say - it was Nokia.<br><br>Today we have a new business model (subject to patent application or already patented).<br><br>Corporations setting up Internet communities, to have free workers working on projects set up by the corportions.<br>I joined another community of developers and some guys come from a business corporation, developing the same project/s and some get founding from other organizations too.<br><br>It's not bad as long as everyone is fully aware of his/her role and knows business terms in advance, before joining in.<br>Working for free is not bad idea for students.<br>But working for free for businesses to make final
market product is really special idea<br>subject to urgent discussion.<br><br>One questions should be answered.<br>Do developers need Nokia to develop their open soruce free software<br>or does Nokia need developers to develop maemo platform commercial product.<br><br><a class="ln" href="http://groups.google.com/group/globalalliance4u?hl=en">Global Alliance on Open Source Software</a><br>forum is open, you are free to read, post, join, comment, send your proposals<br><br><b>Group email</b>
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</div><br>phone (+48) 886 424 624 <br><br>Darius<br><a class="ln" href="http://groups.google.com/group/globalalliance4u?hl=en">Global Alliance on Open Source Software</a><br>http://groups.google.com/group/globalalliance4u?hl=en<br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 6/6/08, Quim Gil <i><quim.gil@nokia.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: Quim Gil <quim.gil@nokia.com><br>Subject: Re: Hello Maemo - CFSONID 2008<br>To: "ext Kees Jongenburger" <kees.jongenburger@gmail.com><br>Cc: "ext Robert Schuster" <theBohemian@gmx.net>, maemo-developers@maemo.org<br>Date: Friday, 6 June, 2008, 1:01 PM<br><br><pre>ext Kees Jongenburger wrote:<br>> The community itself is not organized in "what can we do to achieve<br>xyz".<br>> they and I expect zyx to be maemo.org. They might even think : if<br>> maemo.org behaves like xyz<br>> THEY would be doing the
right thing. it is not exactly easy to<br>> currently do anything for maemo.org<br>> (rember the bus where you are not the driver?). Are we missing a<br>> strong community leader?<br><br>There is something missing, but I think it is more a matter of common<br>understanding.<br><br>It would be silly from Nokia's side to push business reasons in the<br>maemo project without considering a sustainable approach to the free<br>software community needs.<br><br>But it is not much more clever from the community side to push software<br>freedom reasons without considering a sustainable approach to the<br>business company needs.<br><br>maemo is expected by some people to be 100% free, and this is a fair and<br>challenging goal.<br><br>maemo is also expected by some people to beat the competition so the<br>coolest OSS developers decide to invest their time, skills and attention<br>in this project - which is also a fair and challenging goal.<br><br>In
addition to this, Nokia expects to make a sustainable/profitable<br>business around the maemo platform and compatible devices.<br><br>It is perhaps just a coincidence that those betting on 100% of software<br>freedom as a guarantee of commercial success are not the ones making the<br>big investment hiring a team and shipping devices. It's always easier to<br>say "change your business" when you have no money invested in it.<br><br>So please, relax and try to understand also the other side. Nokia is<br>betting more in open source today than yesterday, and tomorrow more than<br>today. Glacial speed? Depends how you look at it. A lot has been done<br>between the 770 launch 3 years ago and today, even in terms of open<br>source strategy.<br><br>Unsatisfied about the speed and/or about the lack of a 100% freedom<br>software delivered by Nokia? You can provide the speed and full scope<br>yourselves, asking Nokia to remove any obstacles in your way. In
the<br>meantime we will keep trying shipping software, development platform and<br>devices exciting not only the open source community but many more people<br>out there. In fact you also want us to do so.<br><br>-- <br>Quim Gil<br>marketing manager, open source<br>maemo software @ Nokia<br>_______________________________________________<br>maemo-developers mailing list<br>maemo-developers@maemo.org<br>https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers</pre></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com