John,<br><br>From the number of replies, it looks like a large number of people are using SMB to transport and manage files. I think your comments about the need for SMB/CIFS support are correct; unless MS comes out with a "better" standard and has the will to force a move to it.<br>
<br>I'm not sure Nokia can afford to try and support SMB, just how big is the market and what's Nokia's share? Is it worth the investment, or did the n810WIFI cost to much, and now it's time to scale back?<br>
<br>I also agree that a .conf file, is the best way to go, it could be wrapped with a GUI, but the bottomline is the ability to hand modify your Linux system is what makes it so much easier to manage then being forced into a GUI.<br>
<br>Thanks,<br><br>Denis<br clear="all">--------------------------------------<br>sik vis paw kem, para bellum<br>--------------------------------------<br>oderint dum metuant<br>--------------------------------------<br>
"Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race!" -LT. GEN. LEWIS "CHESTY" PULLER, USMC<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:06 AM, John Holmblad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jholmblad@acadiasecurenets.com">jholmblad@acadiasecurenets.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<font face="Arial">Denis,<br>
<br>
I see SMB/CIFS support as fundamental for a product like this if it
wants to be taken seriously in the business user market. Also, we
should remember that SMB/CIFS is not just about Windows compatibility.
There is a plethora of products, especially SMB/CIFS based file servers
many of which are built on opensource software.<br>
<br>
Not surprisingly, even the IPhone has the opensource community working
on providing CIFS support for that platform. See for example, the
project at the www page whose url is:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://code.google.com/p/iphonefs/wiki/Overview" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/iphonefs/wiki/Overview</a><br>
<br>
In fact, that app is exactly what I would like to see on the N800/N810.
This app provides a way to browse files on the iphone from systems
running Windows XP, Vista, Windows Home Server, etc.<br>
<br>
I did some quick checking and it seems that the Andriod community is
also at work on apps that suport SMB/CIFS.<br>
<br>
What I don't understand here is that the SAMBA server side, at least,
does not require a rich GUI to be useful for the N800/N810 user. I have
found it to be one of those Linux programs/apps that can be relatively
easily managed by editing the.*.conf file. So where is the
complication for Nokia to continue to support it? Is it the memory
space taken up by the app?<br>
<br>
</font><font face="Arial">I think the Nokia team is making a mistake in
attempting to push the R&D "undo" button and "lighten" its
workload by pushing this off the Nokia deck with the hope that the
community will rescue it.<br>
<br>
Despite its relatively advanced age in the pantheon of network
protocols, SMB/CIFS is not going away anytime soon if ever.<br>
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Best Regards,</span><span></span>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Papyrus; color: navy;">John
Holmblad</span><span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Papyrus; color: navy;">Acadia
Secure Networks,
LLC</span><span></span></p>
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Denis Dimick wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">I wonder if it's possible to put up an interest poll, and
see what users are looking for? I myself use SMB at home to support the
two windows systems the kids use, and allow for an easy mounting on the
remaining 3 Mac's, however, currently I'm not using SMB to mount to my
n810; it would be like using SMB to have two Unix systems share files.<br>
<br>
I don't think we can consider ourselves "Normal Users" since we belong
to this mailing list, however, I'm very pleased at the tone of support
for SMB expressed here; normally on other mailing lists there is a
considerable smaller amount of support for windows users and the trials
they have to endure.<br>
<br>
Just my 2 cents,<br>
<br>
Denis<br>
<br clear="all">
--------------------------------------<br>
sik vis paw kem, para bellum<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
oderint dum metuant<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
"Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There
won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and
take our women and breed a hardier race!" -LT. GEN. LEWIS "CHESTY"
PULLER, USMC<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Graham Cobb
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:g%2B770@cobb.uk.net" target="_blank">g+770@cobb.uk.net</a>></span>
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<div>On Monday 19 January 2009 11:53:45 Aniello Del
Sorbo wrote:<br>
> What SMB would be useful for is sharing data with a network drive.<br>
> They usually share the disk via SMB, NFS or AFP and, as far I know,<br>
> Maemo, starting from Fremantle, does not deploy any of those
clients.<br>
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Samba would be an ideal opportunity for Nokia to consider helping" a
community<br>
add-on (I would have said "support" but that implies bug fixing, which
is not<br>
what I mean). Given that the community exists, with a single place to
go<br>
looking for stuff, there is an ideal way for Nokia to provide useful
features<br>
without having to commit the resources to test and support them
indefinitely.<br>
<br>
Nokia "help" for a community package for Samba (or NFS or AFS or...),
fully<br>
integrated into the Maemo environment, could be expressed in several
ways.<br>
For example, some Nokia employees could be paid to spend some of their
time<br>
on the project (wouldn't it be great if the Maemo team were allowed a<br>
Google-style 20% time to spend on community projects), or Nokia could
help<br>
with testing or contribute resources to the upstream project or
something.<br>
<br>
I know Nokia marketing has been looking for innovative and sexy
projects,<br>
which can show off the features and lifestyle of the new tablet, to
help.<br>
But this can also be a useful tool for those more mundane features which<br>
aren't necessarily hard to implement but which consume an unreasonable<br>
proportion of testing and support (like remote filesystems). In
exchange,<br>
Nokia would get a useful feature, with no support commitment and would
also<br>
be able to measure just how important users think the feature is by
measuring<br>
downloads.<br>
<br>
At a minimum, I hope Nokia is providing any code, test scripts, etc.
they<br>
developed while they were supporting Samba to the community so that
they can<br>
be used if someone else picks up support for it.<br>
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Graham<br>
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